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Ford and GM merging ?? #5120228
05/30/19 12:03 PM
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Gixxer8989 Offline OP
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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120229
05/30/19 12:04 PM
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I doubt it.


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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120237
05/30/19 12:09 PM
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If GM is stronger than Ford it isn't due to Mary. It's because GM was bailed out and Ford wasn't.


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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120240
05/30/19 12:11 PM
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Ford got billions from the feds via Ford Motor credit to help save the auto maker, or should I say truck maker.


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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120242
05/30/19 12:13 PM
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Wow...that would totally freak me out.
I guess GM would want Ford mostly for the F series pickups?
Seems smarter to let them die otherwise.


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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120254
05/30/19 12:26 PM
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Truthfully, I think that article was potentially one of the largest crocks I've read this year.

Based upon no information whatsoever besides a bored journalist's imagination.

I think that article was written by someone who was once told what a car might have look liked through a kaleidoscope.

Last edited by KittyTickler; 05/31/19 10:45 AM. Reason: Censor Bypass

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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120258
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Hackett is a disgrace...why he is still at the helm of Ford is mind boggling to say the least..it's almost like the Ford family expect the company to
collapse and possibly don't care at this point.

I think there will be a merger but everything but the trucks will be discontinued by GM and perhaps GM will keep some Ford dealers as truck and commercial stores only. The Ford name will be kept for the F-150, Ranger, and new Bronco.

Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120263
05/30/19 12:38 PM
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I think the author is confusing market capitalization with sales.

Just because Ford has lost 42% in market cap doesn't mean they are circling the drain.

For was probably stronger then GM at the beginning of the period and GM was probably undervalued at that same initial point of the comparison.

Global sales figures in millions for Ford since 2012 are:

2012 - 5.67
2013 - 6.33
2014 - 6.32
2015 - 6.64
2016 - 6.65
2017 - 6.60
2018 - 5.98

So 2018 saw a 10% drop in sales. Add in some other economic headwinds and one can see why they had layoffs.

I think the market may be over reacting a bit with respect to the drop in market cap.

If I were buying stock in a single US auto maker, I'd look at Ford as a potential value play. But I've not done much research yet, so this is an un-researched gut feeling at the moment.


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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120267
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I doubt it. Be hard to get past US federal approval, let alone other nations.


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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120271
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Pure speculation!


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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120289
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No way.........a Ford GM merger would kill NASCAR! smirk2

Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: redhat] #5120312
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Agree with this 100%. No way this will actually happen.

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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120313
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Pure speculation and fake news. Marketwatch is not a reliable source


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Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Gixxer8989] #5120322
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For those of you who think Ford didn't get any Federal money-you really need to do some research......

Re: Ford and GM merging ?? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #5120323
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Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
Wow...that would totally freak me out.
I guess GM would want Ford mostly for the F series pickups?
Seems smarter to let them die otherwise.


That's all they sell in any large numbers.....isn't it?

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