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New to the cartridge oil filter party.... #5116293
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We just bought a 2007 Santa Fe with a 3.3 motor. It has a cartridge style filter which is a first for me on any vehicle we have owned.

I am amazed at the size of it. It is huge. Seems like the filters could last a long time and hold lots of dirt. I have had vehicles that had tiny filters that looked better suited to a riding mower.

Any thoughts on top quality cartridge filters?


2003 Mercury Grand Marquis.
2007 Hyundai Santa Fe AWD.
2005 Toyota Avalon XLS
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT.
Re: New to the cartridge oil filter party.... [Re: ZZman] #5116304
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OE, Mann, Mahle, Hengst, Purflux.


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Re: New to the cartridge oil filter party.... [Re: ZZman] #5116307
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Fram Ultra XG9999 .. Here is the reason: 4548-12 tests are best, and its good for 20,000 miles, wire-backed.
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Big as it is, that thing will have no problem going a full 20,000 miles. I've seen bigger engines with much small oil filters. For example, GM V8's use the PF64, not big at all!

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Fram Ultra smile

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Originally Posted by oil_film_movies
Fram Ultra XG9999 .. Here is the reason: 4548-12 tests are best, and its good for 20,000 miles, wire-backed.
[Linked Image]
Big as it is, that thing will have no problem going a full 20,000 miles. I've seen bigger engines with much small oil filters. For example, GM V8's use the PF64, not big at all!



If that does NOT have the barb with tiny O ring, expect to see oil lamp flicker at idle. Saw it happen a lot before we used the p-989 champ labs filters. Just stating a fact



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It is my understanding that you should get a large and small o-ring as they should be replaced.


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Originally Posted by ZZman
It is my understanding that you should get a large and small o-ring as they should be replaced.


Correct sir smile



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When I checked the Fram website all 3 filter choices showed the 2 o-rings.


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See if there is there is a preferred installation method.

It could be "click into place in the engine first" or "click into the housing first then install the complete housing" for this engine.

It may or may not matter. I do not know.

The "Do I benefit from filling the housing with oil to shorten the dry start-up" madness will be along shortly.

Best of luck with your new vehicle.

Q: Who has Pureflux? Never heard of 'em.

Re: New to the cartridge oil filter party.... [Re: rooflessVW] #5116350
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Originally Posted by rooflessVW
OE, Mann, Mahle, Hengst, Purflux.


Agreed.


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Re: New to the cartridge oil filter party.... [Re: MCompact] #5116360
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Originally Posted by MCompact
Originally Posted by rooflessVW
OE, Mann, Mahle, Hengst, Purflux.
Agreed.
None of which have the filtering performance of a Fram Ultra. Why recommend inferior filters? Are you saying it doesn't matter, and the engine won't explode? That would be true and the only possible way anybody would say to use paper oil filters over double-layer synthetic media.

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Originally Posted by ZZman
It is my understanding that you should get a large and small o-ring as they should be replaced.


They are included with the filter smile

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I really like the Looks of the Santa Fe but seriously any car with a cartridge filter is off my buy list.


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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
I really like the Looks of the Santa Fe but seriously any car with a cartridge filter is off my buy list.

Why?

Assuming it's top mounted, it's the easiest to access and replace, with minimal mess.



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Originally Posted by Quattro Pete
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
I really like the Looks of the Santa Fe but seriously any car with a cartridge filter is off my buy list.

Why?

Assuming it's top mounted, it's the easiest to access and replace, with minimal mess.



Exactly- it's a no brainer.


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2009 Cooper Clubman
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