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Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio #5115499 05/25/19 03:22 PM
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I have two Ford Fusion's a 2016 and a 2018 both with the 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio. I am using Mobil 1 5W30 Annual Protection. Is there a better oil for these two cars and does Castrol offer a better product than Mobil one ? I know Ford wants us to use a 5W20 but i am not sold on that idea.


2016 and 2018 Ford Fusion SE 1.5 GDI Turbo Ecoboost engine with 10:1 compression ratio both running Mobil 1 5W30 Annual Protection.

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Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: tdi jerry] #5115516 05/25/19 03:35 PM
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Castrol and Mobil are basically offering the same oil with their "flavor." I do think you are paying TOO much for oil. Regular Mobil 1 or Castrol or even Motorcraft would be better cost-wise than M1 AP.

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Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: PPWarrior] #5115527 05/25/19 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PPWarrior
Regular Mobil 1 or Castrol or even Motorcraft would be better cost-wise than M1 AP.



Welll... I got several jugs in 5W-20 AP when AutoZone clearanced them out for $10 a jug!


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Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: tdi jerry] #5115568 05/25/19 04:22 PM
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With identical ratings ,,, oil is oil.


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Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: CT8] #5115652 05/25/19 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CT8
With identical ratings ,,, oil is oil.

Wrong! Please read the labels carefully and slowly. Then observe what might be missing from them.

Jerry
No need to buy the most expensive. Buy Mobil-1 Vanilla and change every 5K. TGDIs need frequent changes, but still serve best with brand-name oils like Mobil, Castrol, Valvoline and Pennzoil.

Oil is not all the same. That's like saying 50 graduates holding the same, identical certification diplomas at Joe-Schmoe High School will all go-on to be doctors and lawyers.
People are not the same and neither are the oils, despite the same identical certs stamped to them.


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Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5115685 05/25/19 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by CT8
With identical ratings ,,, oil is oil.

Wrong! Please read the labels carefully and slowly. Then observe what might be missing from them.

Jerry
No need to buy the most expensive. Buy Mobil-1 Vanilla and change every 5K. TGDIs need frequent changes, but still serve best with brand-name oils like Mobil, Castrol, Valvoline and Pennzoil.

Oil is not all the same. That's like saying 50 graduates holding the same, identical certification diplomas at Joe-Schmoe High School will all go-on to be doctors and lawyers.
People are not the same and neither are the oils, despite the same identical certs stamped to them.

I do 5000 mile oil changes the GDI engines are nasty. I want the best oil for my cars and don't mind paying a little extra for the oil because i plan on keeping them for the long term.


2016 and 2018 Ford Fusion SE 1.5 GDI Turbo Ecoboost engine with 10:1 compression ratio both running Mobil 1 5W30 Annual Protection.

Jerry
Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: tdi jerry] #5115697 05/25/19 06:27 PM
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I like pennzoil platinum 5w30 it meets api SN plus, Chrysler ms-13340, and dexos 1 gen 2, all important for GDI or Turbo GDI engines.

it is also around $23 for 5 quarts and frequently has a $10 mail in rebate.


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Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: tdi jerry] #5115700 05/25/19 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tdi jerry
. I am using Mobil 1 5W30 Annual Protection. Is there a better oil for these two cars
You are picking an advanced synthetic, no doubt its good. They do use some PAO, with possibly GTL GroupIII+ in there, with Infineum anti-oxidants, it is the real thing. Main difference between your oil choice and cheaper synthetics would be how much piston deposits happen over many miles. Wear numbers are going to be similar across most dexos1 Gen2 full synthetics like that.
One oil that does tell us some wear results is the excellent Castrol Edge gold jug, which says Sequence IVA is 15 microns ! That may be the best I've heard of, and beats Amsoil Signature Series published results.
Walmart has Castrol gold jug, and amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-Extended-Performance-Advanced-Synthetic/dp/B00IPS3GMI
For all we know, your M1 AP could give great Sequence IVA results too, just not advertised exactly.

You're OK using 5w30 instead of 0w20 since there is only about 12% difference in hot viscosity anyway. Not much, but some extra margin if you want.

Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: tdi jerry] #5115721 05/25/19 06:56 PM
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Might add that Mobil1 is coming up with a new oil in a few months that is called "M1 Turbo" that claims to score very well on the turbocharger coking test part of dexos1 Gen2. Thats not to say M1 AP won't also score very well on that same test, but for a turbo engine, it might be good to get something you know is exceptionally low on turbo bearing deposits.

Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: oil_film_movies] #5115739 05/25/19 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by oil_film_movies
Might add that Mobil1 is coming up with a new oil in a few months that is called "M1 Turbo" that claims to score very well on the turbocharger coking test part of dexos1 Gen2. Thats not to say M1 AP won't also score very well on that same test, but for a turbo engine, it might be good to get something you know is exceptionally low on turbo bearing deposits.

I have heard that mobil 1 was coming out with the turbo formula but i have not seen any info on it.


2016 and 2018 Ford Fusion SE 1.5 GDI Turbo Ecoboost engine with 10:1 compression ratio both running Mobil 1 5W30 Annual Protection.

Jerry
Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: tdi jerry] #5115765 05/25/19 07:46 PM
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Magnatec does pretty well in the UOA section here. Using it in both my ‘boosts with no trouble.


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Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: tdi jerry] #5116103 05/26/19 08:35 AM
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Might add that Mobil1 is coming up with a new oil in a few months that is called "M1 Turbo" that claims to score very well on the turbocharger coking test part of dexos1 Gen2. Thats not to say M1 AP won't also score very well on that same test, but for a turbo engine, it might be good to get something you know is exceptionally low on turbo bearing deposits.

I have heard that mobil 1 was coming out with the turbo formula but i have not seen any info on it.

Mobil has the MSDS info out on it, and this formula uses less PAO than their EP & AP products, so not the long oil change interval, but maybe about as good for least turbo deposits than the more expensive flavors anyway:
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Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: oil_film_movies] #5116343 05/26/19 12:49 PM
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Using 5W-20 Castrol Magnatec on 15 Fusion & 17 Escape great results . Ford dealership let me take my choice of Lube & Filter . Baldwin + Castrol proven products .

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Using 5W-20 Castrol Magnatec on 15 Fusion & 17 Escape great results . Ford dealership let me take my choice of Lube & Filter . Baldwin + Castrol proven products .

Truth: You don't know you got "great results". Nobody can stand outside a car, use x-ray vision like superman, and tell us "wear, deposits, longevity" is best. ... It takes actual engineering results from real engine testing of the most premium formulations to begin to hope for "great results".
And, you chose Baldwin which has mediocre filtering performance compared to Fram Ultra, and even 2nd-place oil filters like M1 Extended oil filters.
You can say "I probably got average results"... based on your choices. Sorry, just the truth here.

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Re: Ford 1.5 GDI Turbo Engine with 10.1 Compression Ratio [Re: tdi jerry] #5116373 05/26/19 01:37 PM
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I'm 12k miles into my a second 20K OCI using Mobil 1 5w20 AP.....this engine is extremely easy on oil!


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