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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: JMJNet] #5111172
05/21/19 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JMJNet
It should be almost free replacement if it is covered by road hazard warranty?

My bad: bought them in 2017 without road hazard.
about $70/tire from Amazon .
New tire from JustTires (closest driving choice), about $171 (+ taxes + fees + install)

What can I say... in a Time Crunch, so just cost of having to go places....


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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: pandus13] #5111177
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Thank you all for your eval.

Now one question: what do you think it could be the reason , 2 sets of tires develop the sidewall cracks after 2-3 years of use at 3-4 years of manufactured date?
Mixed highway+local miles driven, amount 20k-30k miles (Total per 2-3 years), climate Midwestern with some vacations in warm places.
Have not used tire shine or similar products.


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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: pandus13] #5111181
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Originally Posted by pandus13
Thank you all for your eval.

Now one question: what do you think it could be the reason , 2 sets of tires develop the sidewall cracks after 2-3 years of use at 3-4 years of manufactured date?
Mixed highway+local miles driven, amount 20k-30k miles (Total per 2-3 years), climate Midwestern with some vacations in warm places.
Have not used tire shine or similar products.

Too much UV? When I gripe about it I get told that NH can have lots more UV than I would have guessed. Nature of the beast? In order to get good grippy tire yet low rolling resistance, maybe the rubber just isn't going to go 6 years without drying out excessively? Dunno.


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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: pandus13] #5111210
05/21/19 11:35 AM
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I'm amazed that this hasn't attracted the typically anti-Michelin sidewall cracking brigade, which is always poised to lunge from their dugouts at the mere sign of a UV damaged sidewall and then write novels about how their uncle's buddy's adopted sister's best friend's nephew's step mom from Arizona had sidewall rot on the LTX she installed 8 years ago and put 5,000 miles on while primarily parked in direct sunlight and that because of this flawless anecdote, all tires from that marque are garbage and are to be avoided like the plague smirk


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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: OVERKILL] #5111220
05/21/19 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
I'm amazed that this hasn't attracted the typically anti-Michelin sidewall cracking brigade, which is always poised to lunge from their dugouts at the mere sign of a UV damaged sidewall and then write novels about how their uncle's buddy's adopted sister's best friend's nephew's step mom from Arizona had sidewall rot on the LTX she installed 8 years ago and put 5,000 miles on while primarily parked in direct sunlight and that because of this flawless anecdote, all tires from that marque are garbage and are to be avoided like the plague smirk

I'm sure you missed a friendly dog and a pig somewhere.... Cheers2
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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: pandus13] #5111240
05/21/19 12:00 PM
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100% need a new tire to replace that one. No doubt about it.

Re: Is this a problem? [Re: SeaJay] #5111257
05/21/19 12:15 PM
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You got a teenage son who drives the car too? Looking at the tread wear on the tire edge it looks like someone has been cornering pretty hard.

Re: Is this a problem? [Re: pandus13] #5111313
05/21/19 01:10 PM
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Guilty. Who needs teenagers?
Actually, there are only 2 corners which I take at 25-35 mph.
Now , for the rest, I am not an aggressive driver, but not a sleepy one. As in , leave a green traffic light, reach posted speed, look 1/4 mile behind me and 3 lanes of traffic are still asleep ???
But when I'm in the left lane., I do keep up with traffic.

For the record, when sun comes back, I will take some pictures of the back tires (which do have some fine cracking)

CapriRacer, one thing of your statistics (and maybe a bad one for me): tires not rotated.


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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: pandus13] #5111318
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OKay, so tire replacement scheduled Today.

For the future, what brand+model would be recommended?
size (for now): 205/50R17
type: All-season/All-weather
important: grip + comfort + (Not super noisy).


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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: pandus13] #5111420
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How many miles are on the Nokians and are they very noisy?

Re: Is this a problem? [Re: pandus13] #5111434
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SatinSilver,
(I estimate) 20k-24k miles. (invoice where I noted miles at replacement is somewhere in a box in storage)
Noise level: medium+
But Mazda5 is not really insulated. Driving on highway, usually need radio sound level of 27 and up.


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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: pandus13] #5111476
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Originally Posted by pandus13
OKay, so tire replacement scheduled Today.

For the future, what brand+model would be recommended?
size (for now): 205/50R17
type: All-season/All-weather
important: grip + comfort + (Not super noisy).


Do you run dedicated winter tires? This seems to imply no, but I wanted to ask.


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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: OVERKILL] #5111483
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Do you run dedicated winter tires? This seems to imply no, but I wanted to ask.

No.


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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: pandus13] #5111485
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Originally Posted by pandus13
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Do you run dedicated winter tires? This seems to imply no, but I wanted to ask.

No.


How much snow do you get/how often do you drive in snow?


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Re: Is this a problem? [Re: OVERKILL] #5111496
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by pandus13
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Do you run dedicated winter tires? This seems to imply no, but I wanted to ask.

No.

How much snow do you get/how often do you drive in snow?

(I've run snows on the Yaris before selling. Unbeatable in snow, than on weather on dry or over 50F, squishy)
Chicago/Chicago area usually gets 3days-1 week per winter with some jumps about every 5 years.
Usually gets cleaned up really fast..
Not driving much out of town when heavy snow falling.


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