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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: StevieC] #5078905 04/18/19 02:14 PM
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I can install a 4BT into your ride over an afternoon and a few beers.

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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: ofelas] #5078909 04/18/19 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ofelas
I can install a 4BT into your ride over an afternoon and a few beers.

Caravan rolling coal :-D

LOL Nah I'm good... Thanks though.


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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: StevieC] #5079066 04/18/19 04:45 PM
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How did 2stroke oil clean your tailpipe? Not being rude but you seem to have more problems with vehicles than anybody I’ve ever seen


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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: StevieC] #5079067 04/18/19 04:45 PM
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So the soot is not reaching your tailpipe now and instead clogged in your catalyst. I kid shocked2

Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: BigShug681] #5079895 04/19/19 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BigShug681
How did 2stroke oil clean your tailpipe? Not being rude but you seem to have more problems with vehicles than anybody I’ve ever seen


I'm not saying it cleaned the tail pipe perse but it modified something so now it no longer exists like it did before. I'm also seeing slight mileage gains so it might be better atomizing the fuel or providing better ring seal. I have no idea. It's just an observation of before and after... I'm quite happy to run without it and see if the soot ring re-appears.

Amsoil is aware that I'm using this in a 4-stroke application as I checked for comparability with the catalyst prior even though no one on here running TC-w3 seems to have problems with it.


'18 Caravan - 40k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w20, Fram Ultra, TC-W3 500:1
'06 Santa Fe - 535k KM (Retired)

There is no such thing as "lifetime" fluids! mad
Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: StevieC] #5079970 04/19/19 01:58 PM
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If you have looked over on the other thread I mentioned this:

Originally Posted by MolaKule
In TC oils, the majority of components are Multi-Functional Friction Modifiers/AW's where most of the friction modifier/AW's are one or more polyisobutylenes of various molecular weights. Older formulas used brightstock but brightstock leaves a host of deposits and residues.

In synthetic TC-W3 oils, the Multi-Functional Friction Modifiers/AW's are a combination of polyisobutylenes of various molecular weights and POE's of Trimethylol Propane (TMP) esters. The TMP esters may also do some cleaning of the combustion system while in aerosol form.

In ancient TC formulas, a Stoddard solvent had to be added in order to get the brightstock and other heavy oils (Group I and II 30 grade oils) to go into solution, but TMP esters now take care of solubility issues.

Base oils may be Group III oils, and or some PAO's, but are minority components.

The additives are: a polyisobutenyl (ashless) succinimide dispersant, a phosphorylated Borate (another AW/Anti-scuff agent), and a combustion enhancer of either a sulphurized oxymolybdenum dialkyl-dithiophosphate or a Titanium-compound.


Now I don't know what Formula Amsoil is using but these synthetic formulas have traditionally contained those smokeless burning polyisobutylenes.

Now certain types of polyisobutylenes has been known to improve fuel atomization, but in a 640:1 or even a 512:1 I think you would be hard pressed to detect more than a 0.25% improvement in mileage.


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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: StevieC] #5080369 04/19/19 11:26 PM
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I did a little comparing at Walmart today. It appears that not all TC-W3 oils are created equal. My Walmart stocks 3 different types of TC-W3 made by Pennzoil alone. They also have several other various brands of tc-w3 that I didn’t bother taking pics of. Have a look and let me know what you all think. Which of the three would you choose and why?
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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: BlakeB] #5080453 04/20/19 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BlakeB
I did a little comparing at Walmart today. It appears that not all TC-W3 oils are created equal. My Walmart stocks 3 different types of TC-W3 made by Pennzoil alone. They also have several other various brands of tc-w3 that I didn’t bother taking pics of. Have a look and let me know what you all think. Which of the three would you choose and why?
TC-W3 Google Photos Album


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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: Kamele0N] #5081621 04/21/19 11:25 AM
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I was told it's GMO free, and would pass exacting EU/TUV standards shrug

Originally Posted by Kamele0N

Thats stupidity on square....thats why that movie stops at the moment when he would add that "sugar" into the fuel...


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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: StevieC] #5082596 04/22/19 10:17 AM
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About 5 years ago I was running the TC-W3 in my wife's 09 CRV for a short time, can't remember why I quit doing it or what brand I used. She has a 10 mile trip into work which is normally at 50 mph with a few stop lights, and then on the way home the traffic is heavy so she takes a different route of 30 to 40 mph. So the car needs to really get on the highway a little more often. So without the TC-W3 there was always a small layer of black covering the inside of the tail pipe, but after running the TC-W3 through a few tanks at 1 ounce / 5 gallons it cleaned it up. So I'm thinking I may try this again to see if the black layer disappears again and to see if it will quiet the engine.

Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: kwijibo] #5084242 04/23/19 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kwijibo
About 5 years ago I was running the TC-W3 in my wife's 09 CRV for a short time, can't remember why I quit doing it or what brand I used. She has a 10 mile trip into work which is normally at 50 mph with a few stop lights, and then on the way home the traffic is heavy so she takes a different route of 30 to 40 mph. So the car needs to really get on the highway a little more often. So without the TC-W3 there was always a small layer of black covering the inside of the tail pipe, but after running the TC-W3 through a few tanks at 1 ounce / 5 gallons it cleaned it up. So I'm thinking I may try this again to see if the black layer disappears again and to see if it will quiet the engine.

Thanks for that... I'm interested to see if it returns if I stop using it. Might do that when my current tank it finished.


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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: StevieC] #5090327 04/29/19 09:08 AM
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Here is what is in the Amsoil HP Marine TC-W3 oil I'm using...

Attached PDF document
HPM.pdf (127.4 KB, 30 downloads)

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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: R_W_M] #5091954 04/30/19 06:19 PM
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I do the same way. i have a small log book and can guess how much gasoline i need be fore i put fuel in. as i pay cash first. i think TC-W3 must help : i tell my self. LOL. LOL.

Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: StevieC] #5105646 05/15/19 02:43 AM
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I've used this over the years. In my old 2005 Cadillac CTS-V with the Chevy LS6 and a Cam, TCW3 made it run a little smoother/quieter. Not debatable to me. I ran enough of it that the Iridium plugs had a green tint on them. That car got amazing fuel economy, it was just set up perfectly. There was a giant thread on LS1 tech about this, for LS enignes it just seemed to have a little magic.

I had an accord that loved a little acetone in the gas. Most cars, I notice no differences at all.


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Re: TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle [Re: StevieC] #5109013 05/19/19 05:15 AM
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I've been having an issue with my wife's Nissan Expert (QG18), after a couple of years on 5W-30 A3/B4, I ran it on a 10W-40 semi synth to get rid of it, then going back on 5W-30 she says it's pre igniting. After trying different oils, checking this and that, I put 200mm of FA 2 stroke in the tank, she didn't know what I did, but said it's much better. I just did it again, and she says it's 85% better. Without knowing I put something in the tank, both times she's noticed a difference, so something is happening.

Now I just need to know why it started doing this after changing the oil....


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