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Why privacy matters #5108604
05/18/19 04:31 PM
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BobsArmory Offline OP
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Glenn Greenwald was on TED and talked about the issue of tech and privacy see this link Glenn Greenwald: Why privacy matters

This is one of the reasons I am migrating from gmail to protonmail.

I would like to see what others here think about privacy in today's world.


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Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108611
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Migrating to one email service or another will do nothing for privacy. You are being tracked wherever you go and whatever you do. Use a credit card? Tracked. Check out at the supermarket? Tracked. Make a bank transaction? Tracked. Drive your car? Tracked. Use a cell phone? Tracked. Etc. Etc. I'm not saying it is good or bad, but it is the reality today. Instead, I choose an email service for its security. How safe is my data from the people we really have to worry about--criminals. Gmail is very good at that, and it has been 100% reliable since I first started using it in 2006. ProtonMail is a good service, but you give up a lot of functionality moving away from Gmail along with Drive, Docs, Photos, etc.

Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108614
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You posted a reply without even watching the video.


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Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108648
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Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108657
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While gmail has "extra" tracking features (like the ones recently released related to purchasing), if one believes that moving to a new mail service is going to somehow increase privacy, it will not. There is no such thing as being "untrackable" in today's world--far too many electronic transactions, traffic cameras, toll booths, smart phones, computers, social media and the list goes on and on.

It also matters not if you think that you are living off the grid. There was a "unabomber" guy living off the grid in Montana near the location where we hunt. He had gilly nets over his house, no electricity, no TV, blah, blah, blah. I am really certain that no one would ever see the heat plume in the winter, so he was totally "hidden".


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Re: Why privacy matters [Re: Kamele0N] #5108660
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I remember that thread. Proton Mail is just one step in my journey to maximize privacy.

Just recently booked a flight to see my parents on an airlines website. Soon after I was getting status reports via gmail when I didn't even use that email address..


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Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108661
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You don't have any privacy in the modern world. That's the reality.

If you are a privacy advocate-I would suggest getting behind a cause where you could really make a difference........

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Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108662
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Originally Posted by BobsArmory
You posted a reply without even watching the video.

He didn’t want to be tracked by YouTube.

Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108668
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Authoreditor and 2015psd, since you have no issues with privacy, I'm guessing you guys wouldn't mind giving out your passwords to your email accounts to everyone on BITOG? Would you mind if we could connect up with Team Viewer so we could browse whats on your hard drive?


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Re: Why privacy matters [Re: 2015_PSD] #5108671
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Originally Posted by 2015_PSD
While gmail has "extra" tracking features (like the ones recently released related to purchasing), if one believes that moving to a new mail service is going to somehow increase privacy, it will not. There is no such thing as being "untrackable" in today's world--far too many electronic transactions, traffic cameras, toll booths, smart phones, computers, social media and the list goes on and on.

It also matters not if you think that you are living off the grid. There was a "unabomber" guy living off the grid in Montana near the location where we hunt. He had gilly nets over his house, no electricity, no TV, blah, blah, blah. I am really certain that no one would ever see the heat plume in the winter, so he was totally "hidden".

You can certainly increase your privacy. It's not super easy and most people are lazy and gullible.


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Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108696
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Authoreditor and 2015psd, since you have no issues with privacy,

We didn't say that. What we said is that there is nothing you can do about the loss of privacy, whether you like it or not, unless you want to move off the grid, not use credit cards, don't get a cell phone, don't drive, etc. Of course there are things you can do to somewhat limit your exposure to random strangers knowing a lot about you, but if someone wants to learn about you there is tons of information collected all day every day that none of us can prevent.

Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108725
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Originally Posted by BobsArmory
I remember that thread. Proton Mail is just one step in my journey to maximize privacy.

Probably will be a very long haul. You should consider getting rid of your Netflix and Amazon Prime accounts. Probably shouldn't shop at Walmart anymore (live or online). Might want to consider what information your MetroPCS subscription is collecting. Your onboard GPS system might be watching you, or, did you switch over to Google Maps for your Alcatel A30? And, any thieves that have ascertained your huge investment in firearms had better hope that you are not carrying your beloved 1911 Colt Commander at the time.

Just saying, you share a lot of very personal information here at BITOG, so you can only imagine how much other information your cyber connections are providing to the world. By the way, how has that Empyema episode panned out? 22 days in the hospital followed by a lengthy recuperation had to be brutal.

Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108753
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Protonmail and TAILS OS.

I suppose the question is whether we have aright a right to anonymity.

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Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108857
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Good for you OP.

Back in 2013 I said,

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And Im personally not comfortable with google reading my emails to sell advertising... which is why I dont use gmail personally. Google has a lot of great services, their scholar search is awesome. Im not tightly integrated into ANYTHING.


That still stands. I’m aware that everyone is being tracked. The data is too extreme currently to be useful (IMO), but new computing tech will allow more data to be condensed more and more. That’s good and bad depending upon the use and purpose.

Re: Why privacy matters [Re: BobsArmory] #5108975
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Simply fearmongering.

I pay little to no attention to this.
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