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Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: sm00thpapa] #5105899
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I'd use a fully synthetic oil instead of a blend any time a Turbo is involved.


'18 Caravan - 36k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w20, Fram Ultra, TC-W3 500:1
'06 Santa Fe - 535k KM (Retired)

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Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5105901
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by sm00thpapa
Hi everyone. I just bought a 2019 Hyundai Sonata Limited 2.0T. Just wanted some thoughts on what oil to use. The cap says 5W-30 and the manual says anything from 5W-30 to 20W-50 for my temp range and they recommend Shell Helix or Quakerstate. I live in Tampa Florida and my Hyundai dealer only uses Amalie oil since the Amalie oil factory is in Tampa and they get it cheap. Their standard oil is the Amalie syn-blend. Which I find good as they do not use any conventional oils. But I want to run a full Synthetic. They offer the Amalie full Synthetic for $49.99 for 5 quarts and also have the Amalie Imperial turbo formula which I know nothing about and it's a syn-blend. I want to use Quakerstate 5W-30 Full Synthetic as I can get it from Walmart for $19.97 for a 5 quart jug. I'll also need to get a single quart as my engine calls for 5.7 Quarts. I feel Quakerstate is a good oil for the price. The 3 to 4 bucks more for Penzzoil, Valvoline or any other oil I feel is not a good deal. Thanks in advance.

You spend big bucks for your ride and now you want to pinch pennies.
When I removed the Quaker State factory-fill and entered-in Castrol Edge, my engine became quieter. Yes I paid a few bucks more for it, versus reaching for Quaker State at Walmart.


Just how many DB's quieter? Where did you get your DB meter by the way I'm looking for a good one.


2004 Corolla 132497
Out: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 7156 Miles
In: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 3-14-19 129693
2006 Duramax 74906
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: sm00thpapa] #5105970
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Running my first change of synthetic for 6000 miles trying to get the odometer around to divisible by 5K. Since I can't change my own I'll probably revert to VWB ($10+ coupons) or the twenty buck QS change at Wally World.

Car seems to run a bit better with ST synthetic than the VWB, but my thought is that the weather is warmer, the gas in summer gas, or getting deafer.

The idea that you can butt dyno one brand of oil for another or that Castrol is naturally better than QS is beyond me. If I could change my own I'd get the cheapest Group III I could wrangle. SN+ of course.

I've had turbos and I've had DI. Not both in the same car. Probably wouldn't be running VWB if I had a turbo in this thing. I think that the basic HyunKia engine is fairly bullet proof. If they self destruct they do it spectacularly, especially those 2.4 American engines with the crap left in them. Or fires from not replacing the fuel pump kits on the recall. If you don't get one of those, I think the engine's not that fussy, and more reliable than the trial attorneys will tell you.

Last edited by csandste; 05/15/19 12:15 PM.

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Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: sm00thpapa] #5106158
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Just because a semi syn will do the job doesn't mean running a decent off the shelf synthetic like Valvoline Modern Engine or Mobil1 EP or QS's or Pennzoil PP or UP or ect wouldn't protect against deposits and wear better especially if driving hard with a DI turbo. Also the dealer would likely get in trouble with Corporate for only offering Aimilie products if they will not then allow you to supply your own OEM oil or one from the Hyuandi/KIA preferred Manufacturer list then I'd decline to have it serviced and inform them you are going to send a politely but strongly worded letter documenting everything to a regional service rep and escalate it along with finding a new dealership for service. Then do so, shady dealers need to be put in check.

Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: StevieC] #5106197
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Originally Posted by StevieC
I'd use a fully synthetic oil instead of a blend any time a Turbo is involved.


[Linked Image] 400 degrees F, deposits might form in there, just sayin' ....


It's not here, not on da Walmart shelves YET, but its coming in the next few months:
[Linked Image]
--- which did well in the dexos1 GM turbo coking test

Until that oil comes out, pick Mobil1 Extended Performance or Annual Protection at wally world.

And, Fram Ultra oil filter does best on the 4548-12 filtering performance test, and is wire-backed, etc..... another walmart shelf item too, ez to find.

Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: sm00thpapa] #5106251
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Oil_film_movies, where did you get that information on the Mobil1 Turbo Power? A VOA will be interesting on that...


2018 KIA Sportage 2.4 AWD:
Carquest Full Syn 5W-20, Carquest Prem 85334

2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T:
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W-30, OEM


Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: wemay] #5106264
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Originally Posted by wemay
Oil_film_movies, where did you get that information on the Mobil1 Turbo Power? A VOA will be interesting on that...
It was in some promotional web page for Booth 3238 at this year's AAPEX in Vegas (11/2019). Can't find that old link any more. The image came from a previous thread here, back when I knew where it was.

I think all we have about the new oil is the MSDSs from mobiloil.com, the usual https://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/IntApps/psims/SearchResults.aspx and put in turbo power in the product name search box.

Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: sm00thpapa] #5106327
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Thanks!


2018 KIA Sportage 2.4 AWD:
Carquest Full Syn 5W-20, Carquest Prem 85334

2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T:
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W-30, OEM


Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: oil_film_movies] #5106734
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Originally Posted by oil_film_movies
Originally Posted by StevieC
I'd use a fully synthetic oil instead of a blend any time a Turbo is involved.


400 degrees F, deposits might form in there, just sayin' ....


It's not here, not on da Walmart shelves YET, but its coming in the next few months:

--- which did well in the dexos1 GM turbo coking test

Until that oil comes out, pick Mobil1 Extended Performance or Annual Protection at wally world.

And, Fram Ultra oil filter does best on the 4548-12 filtering performance test, and is wire-backed, etc..... another walmart shelf item too, ez to find.

Yeah I have seen enough cooked turbo bearings in my time to know that a synthetic and an excellent quality one will still have a hard time keeping the bearings fully deposit free because of the extreme temperatures, but you can keep it as clean as possible and extend their service life by using a high quality fully synthetic engine oil to limit these deposits as much as possible.

It doesn't need to be Amsoil or something boutique (just so no one gets the wrong idea), but I would use something that is predominantly PAO like M1 E.P./A.P.

Last edited by StevieC; 05/16/19 09:44 AM.

'18 Caravan - 36k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w20, Fram Ultra, TC-W3 500:1
'06 Santa Fe - 535k KM (Retired)

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Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: sm00thpapa] #5107365
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Thanks for all the replies you guys are awesome. I decided to go with the Mobil 1 5W-30 since I'm going with 3K OCI to keep the oil clean and fresh. I can't wait to see that Mobil 1 Turbo formula tested. Thanks again guys.


19 Sonata 2.0T
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Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: sm00thpapa] #5107489
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Theta II turbo?

5w/0w -40 A3/B4.

Barring that - an A5/B5 5w-30.

Make mine Mobil1 flavor - but there are lots of options depending on your preferences.

Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: aquariuscsm] #5108023
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Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
QSUD. Good and cheap!



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2008 Silverado Z71 LT 96k Maxlife FS 5w30
2010 Ford Escape 192k QSUD 5w20
2016 Yamaha XSR900 13k, Spectro 10w40, Yamaha Filter.
Re: 2019 Sonata Limited 2.0T [Re: BLND1] #5108203
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Originally Posted by BLND1
Theta II turbo?

5w/0w -40 A3/B4.

Barring that - an A5/B5 5w-30.

Make mine Mobil1 flavor - but there are lots of options depending on your preferences.


0W40 C3 would be better than A3 due to the lower SAPS which would help reduce valve deposits while still retaining positive film strength of HTHS 3.5 necessary for high stress, high heat turbo application

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