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Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds #5095765
05/04/19 04:09 PM
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So I have these two sleds sitting in my storage shed. My wife's grandfather bought them new in 1974. Golden Ghost and Evinrude Quietflite. They have been sitting for several years as they needed batteries, ignition switches and the fuel system cleaned out. Sleds are in good shape, 90% complete, straight and about 1500 clicks on the odometer. Engines turn over and have compression. I had the one out running 4 years ago but the carb was poorly tuned so it was flooding out. I placed them in storage as I have far too many projects so I decided to list them. I was asking 600$ apiece but am questioning that even as I cannot find comparables. I am no salesman, don't feel like ripping people off or haggling for top dollar but wondering what these things are really worth.

People have told me that vintage sleds are popular but again, things are 45 years old, need work and parts that are hard to source.

Thanks for any insight!


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Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5095789
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No help but photos mandatory.


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Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5095804
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When i was in my teens I had a quitetflight lawnboy mower made by OMC, owner of Johnson and Evenrude. No help but never knew they used the name on other stuff.

Rod

Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5096797
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Pics are needed.

Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5097799
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Thanks guys, ya I will try and upload some pics tonight.


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Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5097957
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pics or it didn't happen.

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Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5098207
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Wow those are nice.

IDK about your area but around here, vintage sleds bring top dollar. And seeing that you are in Canada, its probably even 50% more, lol.

In my area, and in USD, those are easy $600 each not running.

Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5098665
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Thanks, ya they are pretty decent. I hate to part with them but someone should enjoy them. I pulled the ghost's fuel system apart. I flushed the tank and blew the main fuel line clear. The impulse pump works and I was able to prime it and get it to fire and even rev up. I hooked up my dying riding mower battery and found the electric start works great.

This week I will find time to start on the quietflite.

If I get some decent results I may just pull them and keep them.


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Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5100087
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Classics! They look like easy restorations. Those would be so cool to putt around on.


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Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5103530
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Well another update. I played around with the quiet flite. It had 1/3 tank of heavily treated mix that was in there for a few years. Still smelled decent so I said to [censored] with it. Pulled fuel to the impulse. Pulled the impulse apart, which was in very good shape. Hooked up the battery, cranked it for a while and found it was pulling fuel to the carb. Primed it and it started running. I ended up taking both kids for a quick rip on the grass. The thing runs great!! Mechanical reverse, neutral work like a charm. Just have to test the cigarette lighter though.

My wife and I decided that they are no longer for sale. I need to source another ignition switch for the ghost and get the recoil handle back on the quiet flite. They both run Bendix carbs, so I might need to source a kit for one of them or begin with the base settings on the high/low.

Love these things!!


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Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5108544
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Further update. I began some more tracing on the Ghost. Pulled the dirty carb, cleaned it and found it was overall great shape. The float was still set from last time I was in it. The needle valve operated as it should and the high/low needles were in great shape. I reset the base line settings. I replaced fuel line from the carb to the impulse, which appeared to have some slight air leaks. the line from the tank to the impulse was still in good shape and no leaks. The segment of line from the top of the tank to the weighted in tank filter was not leaking either.

I primed the carb, impulse and used clear line to a fuel bottle. The Ghost fired up, ran decently and there was a nice fuel draw. I hooked up the line to the tank and it eventually died out. I found the in tank line would allow air in but next to no fuel out. I realized that this would be extremely easy to fix. The metal fitting just unscrews from the tank. While this segment of clear fuel line was hard, it was in decent enough shape. Now the weight filter was well past its expiry date. The metal screen was damaged and the thing was full of deposits.

I snagged a new filter and hopefully today I will get it all buttoned back up and running. Stay tuned for more pictures.

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Re: Questions on Johnson Golden Ghost and Quietflite sleds [Re: BrianF] #5118686
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So further on this saga: The Evinrude fires up after 2-3 pulls of the recoil. Kill the cylinder decomp, open the choke and give it a few revs. It settles to a decent idle. I say decent because it seems like it loads up a bit, 4 stroking as they would say. I leaned out the low speed by 1/8th but realistically, I should wait until winter to play with it.

The Ghost has been having continual issues. It has spark, gets air but wont run correctly. I pulled, cleaned and set the baseline on the carb. The float, needle valve and high/low screws are in great shape and flow as needed. I find that the carb does not flood as bad now, no fuel stream out the mouth of it. But I cannot get it to catch, let alone fire decently. I recall when I had it running just long enough to rev up and drive a few feet, there was a nice amount of mouse house that blew out of the muffler. I will try and unbolt each exhaust pipe and see if there is some restriction. If that does not work, will try swapping the carb from the Evinrude on. I pulled fuel right to the carb and it flows great.

Last week I topped up the chain case as both were real low. I drained and refilled the reverse gear boxes as well. Unknown when or if it was ever done but it looked like old, worn out ATF as the manual called for Dexron. In went some C-op ATF SL, group 4 ATF. Same stuff that went in various transmissions and transfer cases.


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