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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: doitmyself] #5096419
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Originally Posted by doitmyself
Gentlemen, we were given brains for a reason.


So were the engineers who packaged things down there to make a regular maintenance event more difficult than necessary.

But, if anyone thinks vehicles are designed to make anything easy for the DIY guy you might be mistaken.


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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: AZjeff] #5096423
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Originally Posted by AZjeff
Originally Posted by doitmyself
Gentlemen, we were given brains for a reason.


So were the engineers who packaged things down there to make a regular maintenance event more difficult than necessary.

But, if anyone thinks vehicles are designed to make anything easy for the DIY guy you might be mistaken.




It depends on the manufacturer and the model. My Mazda has a access panel that reveals the drain plug and filter with no obstructions. I’m surprised when I hear of vehicles where the entire splash shield has to be removed.


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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: doitmyself] #5096433
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Originally Posted by doitmyself
Gentlemen, we were given brains for a reason.

- I always put down cardboard, old plywood, or whatever to keep drips off the floor.
- Have a suitable drain pan to catch everything.
- A ziplock bag over the filter will catch most of the mess.
- A few rags under the filter will catch any missed drips
- In some difficult locations, I form aluminum foil to catch and direct oil to the drain pan.

I hate cleaning up oily spills. A few minutes prep time eliminates the messy clean up.
[Linked Image]



That is what I do and have minimal mess. I drap an old tshirt over the steering rack to catch anything the ziplock bags misses.


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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: dwcopple] #5096440
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I think the problem (where filters and drains plugs are in poor locations) stems from: engine design and where it fits are done by different teams with no communication between. Engines have optimal filter placement and are packaged for builders' convenience...engine builders have to fit into a size but likely aren't told what's just outside those areas.

So, what's just outside.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdv2Wp9MzY0


I use the overseas manual to choose my oil viscosity.

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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: HoosierJeeper] #5096461
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Originally Posted by HoosierJeeper
Should be the same as my liberty...a little hard to reach but drains super neat. There’s a tray that catches the oil from the filter and directs it down. Yours might be missing that if it’s ever had the steering rack out. The only thing it can hit is the steering rack bushing, so I just put a bag over it. It’s an easy, 15 minute oil change!

It's a brand new 2019.


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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: PimTac] #5096464
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Quote


The Fumoto valve is a good idea.

It's a 2 year lease. I just might not even bother again until it's time to turn it in.


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2011 Chrysler 200 Limited 3.6L V6
Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: dwcopple] #5096515
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Originally Posted by dwcopple
Quote


The Fumoto valve is a good idea.

It's a 2 year lease. I just might not even bother again until it's time to turn it in.



That's one reason I would never buy a vehicle off lease. I know many people that lease and they always cheap out on everything since they are ; "Turning it in anyway"

Many believe in; cheapest oil change, stretched till OLM goes off, cheapo brakes and tires, etc.

I can't say I blame them, but I'm not buying one.


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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: dwcopple] #5096526
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How about punching a hole in it and draining it before you remove it.

Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: dwcopple] #5096527
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Sounds more horrible than the previous generation hemi powered Rams, which were kind of messy as well.

I guess as you'd expect, the Pentastar powered Ram 1500s are a lot more mess free in terms of oil changes. Lots of room under there.


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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: Delta] #5096564
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Originally Posted by Delta
I'm spoiled by the top access filter on my GTI and now new to me Tacoma. More vehicles should be that easy!


My BMWs and Mini have topside mounted cartridge filters- it makes oil changes dead easy.


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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: johnachak] #5096569
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Originally Posted by johnachak

That's one reason I would never buy a vehicle off lease. I know many people that lease and they always cheap out on everything since they are ; "Turning it in anyway"

Many believe in; cheapest oil change, stretched till OLM goes off, cheapo brakes and tires, etc.

I can't say I blame them, but I'm not buying one.


I've bought four cars off-lease; if the cars have a full DSH it doesn't worry me in the slightest.


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2014 M235i
2009 Cooper Clubman
1999 Wrangler Sahara
1995 318ti Club Sport

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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: dwcopple] #5096586
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Originally Posted by dwcopple
Originally Posted by HoosierJeeper
Should be the same as my liberty...a little hard to reach but drains super neat. There’s a tray that catches the oil from the filter and directs it down. Yours might be missing that if it’s ever had the steering rack out. The only thing it can hit is the steering rack bushing, so I just put a bag over it. It’s an easy, 15 minute oil change!

It's a brand new 2019.


Weird....they stopped making libertys in 2013. Cherokee? Not sure where cherokee oil filters are besides the 3.2 v6 ones, which are up top and a cartridge style. My 2015 cherokee is an easy oil change too.


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Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: Warstud] #5096667
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Originally Posted by Warstud
How about punching a hole in it and draining it before you remove it.


Add that to the tinfoil or form-a-funnel idea and we may have a winner.


I use the overseas manual to choose my oil viscosity.

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 149k, SS5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 55k, SS 5w20/Amsoil

Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: doitmyself] #5096738
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Originally Posted by doitmyself
Gentlemen, we were given brains for a reason.

- I always put down cardboard, old plywood, or whatever to keep drips off the floor.
- Have a suitable drain pan to catch everything.
- A ziplock bag over the filter will catch most of the mess.
- A few rags under the filter will catch any missed drips
- In some difficult locations, I form aluminum foil to catch and direct oil to the drain pan.

I hate cleaning up oily spills. A few minutes prep time eliminates the messy clean up.
[Linked Image]

Originally Posted by doitmyself
Gentlemen, we were given brains for a reason.

- I always put down cardboard, old plywood, or whatever to keep drips off the floor.
- Have a suitable drain pan to catch everything.
- A ziplock bag over the filter will catch most of the mess.
- A few rags under the filter will catch any missed drips
- In some difficult locations, I form aluminum foil to catch and direct oil to the drain pan.

I hate cleaning up oily spills. A few minutes prep time eliminates the messy clean up.
[Linked Image]


The bag idea looks neat, but I can see me dropping it and the bag exploding next to my head when it strikes the floor! Lol!

Re: 2019 RAM Hemi 4x4 is the dumbest oil change I've encountered [Re: johnachak] #5096743
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Originally Posted by johnachak
Originally Posted by dwcopple
Quote


The Fumoto valve is a good idea.

It's a 2 year lease. I just might not even bother again until it's time to turn it in.



That's one reason I would never buy a vehicle off lease. I know many people that lease and they always cheap out on everything since they are ; "Turning it in anyway"

Many believe in; cheapest oil change, stretched till OLM goes off, cheapo brakes and tires, etc.

I can't say I blame them, but I'm not buying one.

I do 2 year leases so no tires or brakes to deal with.


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2011 Chrysler 200 Limited 3.6L V6
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