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:::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) #5094368
05/02/19 11:37 PM
05/02/19 11:37 PM
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Charlotte NC
NDL Offline OP
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Hello Y'all!

I am a budget minded consumer, who owns a 2001 Ford Ranger base truck. The truck's got about 200k, but she runs well. Even so, she's a work truck, nothing fancy.

The portion of the rear quarter panel, immediately above the wheel lip, rusted through. I want to do something about this, such as to make the truck presentable looking, but I don't want to put lipstick on a pig.

One thought is that I could bide my time with a temporary fiberglass patch repair (which I would do myself), thinking that it might hold me over until I buy something newer. The other option is to have a panel patch welded on; the patch itself will run $75, but then there's the labor involved + having to grind the welds down, and repaint.

The shops around me are either of the low end Maaco variety, or top end shops which perform flawless repairs on late model cars. Unfortunately, we don't have a local shop that does decent, affordable, work. I am simply looking to make the truck look halfway presentable.

Does anyone have a ballpark range as to what it would cost to have a quarter panel patch welded in, and fresh paint? Again...I haven't approached any of the shops around town, as they would do a showroom style job, costing several thousand dollars. I figured maybe someone in the know might give me a ballpark figure to work around. I live just west of Charlotte, NC.

TIA

Last edited by NDL; 05/02/19 11:38 PM.
Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094376
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If it were me, I wouldn’t bother with any of the options listed. Given that the truck is 18 years old with 200k I would probably just stick to minimal maintenance and not do any body work. With the current value of the truck any money spent sprucing it up won’t net a return when it is time to sell it or trade it in.


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Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094385
05/03/19 12:25 AM
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At my local pick and pull a truck bed no lights or tailgate runs $150 plus tax. Idk about your area, but it might be a good option to look into.

Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094392
05/03/19 12:52 AM
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St. Charles County, Missouri
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Earl Scheib is long gone nationally, though a few stores remain as independents still carrying the name.

I was having dinner with someone tonight and we were talking about the joys of getting a cheap paint job on a beater. In the old days you'd get to pick from about ten standard colors, which of course eventually chipped off revealing the red spots under the new maroon paint. Door jams, and decent prep were not included.

If I were you, I'd get rid of that rust-- maybe a patch, maybe finding a pick and pull bed. I'd get the cheapest paint job I could wrangle. I'd pay a few hundred max. Do as much prep yourself as you can handle. In my day I got probably five different paint jobs, some in the seventies running thirty or forty bucks. Think I got some bodywork thrown in for well under $100. Don't think they ever painted my tires green but purists would cringe. Obviously prices aren't what they were a half century ago, but I still remember these crap paint jobs with certain fond memories.

Sort of the equivalent of throwing a bottle of Restore into an almost cooked engine and getting another year out of it.


Last edited by csandste; 05/03/19 12:52 AM.

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Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094409
05/03/19 02:31 AM
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I'd need a picture, but considering the age of the vehicle you should be able to take a piece of sheet metal and beat it to a near enough shape, weld it on, plus filler.

If this is not DIY, yeah there's the labor. Things you can DIY with low skill and cost could look fine but won't last long term. If by the labor you meant the DIY labor then it's all about how much work you want to do for cosmetic reasons vs paying someone... same as always except this is elective surgery.

If you're really cheap but ambitious, you can completely remove the rusted metal and I mean completely, then lay down some fiberglass matting, epoxy resin, with a mesh or metal framework (riveted on if welding is beyond doing) if the gap is to large for the fiberglass to stay at the shape needed, and then body fill, primer and paint. It may not look perfect. Perfect costs $$$/$$$$, or a good eye for matching the contours and putting more on, multiple steps until you are satisfied and ready to paint.

Last edited by Dave9; 05/03/19 02:34 AM.
Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094469
05/03/19 06:17 AM
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I have had stuff like that repaired and it always comes back. Either get a new box or have the patch panel welded in and painted. Either way it's going to cost you quite a lot of money.


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Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094484
05/03/19 06:31 AM
05/03/19 06:31 AM
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Upstate NY
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Originally Posted by NDL
Hello Y'all!

I am a budget minded consumer, who owns a 2001 Ford Ranger base truck. The truck's got about 200k, but she runs well. Even so, she's a work truck, nothing fancy.

The portion of the rear quarter panel, immediately above the wheel lip, rusted through. I want to do something about this, such as to make the truck presentable looking, but I don't want to put lipstick on a pig.

One thought is that I could bide my time with a temporary fiberglass patch repair (which I would do myself), thinking that it might hold me over until I buy something newer. The other option is to have a panel patch welded on; the patch itself will run $75, but then there's the labor involved + having to grind the welds down, and repaint.

The shops around me are either of the low end Maaco variety, or top end shops which perform flawless repairs on late model cars. Unfortunately, we don't have a local shop that does decent, affordable, work. I am simply looking to make the truck look halfway presentable.

Does anyone have a ballpark range as to what it would cost to have a quarter panel patch welded in, and fresh paint? Again...I haven't approached any of the shops around town, as they would do a showroom style job, costing several thousand dollars. I figured maybe someone in the know might give me a ballpark figure to work around. I live just west of Charlotte, NC.

TIA


I have found some "one man" body shops that will do rust repair at a reasonable cost. The large body shops are doing work for insurance claims and cannot be bothered.


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Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094521
05/03/19 07:24 AM
05/03/19 07:24 AM
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Maybe investigate some somewhat attractive and affordable fender flares? Treat the rust to attempt to slow it down, slap on the flares, and call it good.

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Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: csandste] #5094535
05/03/19 07:47 AM
05/03/19 07:47 AM
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Charlotte NC
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Originally Posted by csandste
Earl Scheib is long gone nationally, though a few stores remain as independents still carrying the name.

I was having dinner with someone tonight and we were talking about the joys of getting a cheap paint job on a beater. In the old days you'd get to pick from about ten standard colors, which of course eventually chipped off revealing the red spots under the new maroon paint. Door jams, and decent prep were not included.

If I were you, I'd get rid of that rust-- maybe a patch, maybe finding a pick and pull bed. I'd get the cheapest paint job I could wrangle. I'd pay a few hundred max. Do as much prep yourself as you can handle. In my day I got probably five different paint jobs, some in the seventies running thirty or forty bucks. Think I got some bodywork thrown in for well under $100. Don't think they ever painted my tires green but purists would cringe. Obviously prices aren't what they were a half century ago, but I still remember these crap paint jobs with certain fond memories.

Sort of the equivalent of throwing a bottle of Restore into an almost cooked engine and getting another year out of it.


Originally Posted by Dave9
I'd need a picture, but considering the age of the vehicle you should be able to take a piece of sheet metal and beat it to a near enough shape, weld it on, plus filler.

If this is not DIY, yeah there's the labor. Things you can DIY with low skill and cost could look fine but won't last long term. If by the labor you meant the DIY labor then it's all about how much work you want to do for cosmetic reasons vs paying someone... same as always except this is elective surgery.

If you're really cheap but ambitious, you can completely remove the rusted metal and I mean completely, then lay down some fiberglass matting, epoxy resin, with a mesh or metal framework (riveted on if welding is beyond doing) if the gap is to large for the fiberglass to stay at the shape needed, and then body fill, primer and paint. It may not look perfect. Perfect costs $$$/$$$$, or a good eye for matching the contours and putting more on, multiple steps until you are satisfied and ready to paint.


Originally Posted by joekingcorvette
I have had stuff like that repaired and it always comes back. Either get a new box or have the patch panel welded in and painted. Either way it's going to cost you quite a lot of money.


Originally Posted by doitmyself
Maybe investigate some somewhat attractive and affordable fender flares? Treat the rust to attempt to slow it down, slap on the flares, and call it good.

[Linked Image]


I want to thank everyone for their replies, and for the time y'all took to give me your opinions. You have all given me something to think about...

The fender flares were a good suggestion, but a decent set will run around $350, which I could otherwise use for a semi temporary repair.

The local Maaco shops are not well thought of, and Earl Scheib shops are sorely missed (my high school shop teacher had them paint his Nova, and they did a surprisingly good job).

Assuming that I put a fiberglass patch over the hole, (and I have enough skill such that I think it would look halfway decent), what do you think the average shop would charge me to hit that part of the quarter panel with paint? Or is it likely that most shops wouldn't be interested in half a--ing the quarter panel, which would leave me with a rattle can paint job?

Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094536
05/03/19 07:49 AM
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Spending money for cosmetics on a $1,000 truck doesn't make much sense. Plus DIY body repairs usually always look like crap. The fender flare suggestion is the best idea if it covers the rust spot. $160 on Ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/For-1998-2...1?hash=item591a5f4561:g:sfMAAOSwyUtbdb34 Otherwise keep driving and save your money to put into your next truck.

Last edited by atikovi; 05/03/19 07:50 AM.
Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094539
05/03/19 07:54 AM
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are you saving for a new truck?


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Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094554
05/03/19 08:04 AM
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I would be more concerned with the frame on these.


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Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094557
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If minimal expense is your goal, maybe after fiberglass repair could you do a faux fender flare with roll-on bed liner??
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Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094573
05/03/19 08:24 AM
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If I were in your shoes I'd be on the lookout for a bed out of a wrecking yard in the same color. I pulled the bed off my old 1999 Ranger in under an hour by myself in my garage.


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Re: :::Thoughts (Should I Put In For A New Quarter Panel?) [Re: NDL] #5094641
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If you're up to the repair itself, why not a shot at the painting too? Pick up an inexpensive paint sprayer and compressor and give it a whirl. Lots of tips on line on how to do your first spray job.


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