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2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor #5091557
04/30/19 11:57 AM
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WA (USA)
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Got this in an email from a distributor I use:
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There have been some big changes in the lubricant market recently, and our account management team wanted you to know as soon as possible. In 2019, the cost of base oils and additives have increased. As a result, finished lubricant prices will rise in the coming weeks. Here’s why:

Infineum, one of the two major suppliers of Heavy Duty Motor Oil (HDMO) additives, has recently reported a key supplier cannot meet its production requirements, limiting customer fulfillment by half. Infineum is one of the leading companies supplying additives to major oil companies necessary for finished lubricants. On the heels of that news two other additive companies have announced price increases effective by the end of May. Finally, the base oil market has had two price increases in 2019 so far. Combined, the increases in base oil cost and additive supply issues are driving multiple finished lubricant price increases this year.

Due to these factors, nearly every major and sub-major finished lubricant brand has announced either two small or one large price increase to take effect throughout May. As this is time sensitive information, we felt it merits an official communication.

Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: Y_K] #5091601
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I wonder if this, combined with the rising price of gas, will start to curb demand and cause prices to fall towards the end of 2019?


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Castrol GTX HM 5W-30, STP blue bottle; Fram TG 9688.

2009 Pontiac G5 - 2.2 I-4, auto, 121k miles.
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Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: Y_K] #5091613
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Originally Posted by Y_K
Infineum, one of the two major suppliers of Heavy Duty Motor Oil (HDMO) additives, has recently reported a key supplier cannot meet its production requirements, limiting customer fulfillment by half.


This is interesting, as I get the Fuels & Lubes (F&L) newsletter daily. At least 2-3 times per week, there are articles about additive suppliers and/or new lubricant plants ramping up productions or adding new capacity. Considering that some of the big players mentioned are talking about supporting a market of something like 2 million TONS of lubricants by CY2020, I don't understand how there could be a shortfall.

Probably just more behind-the-scenes politicks causing price creep for all things consumer-petroleum driven to continue to artificially inflate the hybrid/PHEV market.

Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: Y_K] #5091822
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Likely they have to switch additives to support SN+ and end up with insufficient supply of moly and too much calcium?


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Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: Y_K] #5092442
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As if motor oil prices weren't too high already...just keep sticking it to the consumer...

Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: grampi] #5092561
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Originally Posted by grampi
As if motor oil prices weren't too high already...just keep sticking it to the consumer...



You are really not aware motor oil prices are very cheap. Nothing like a person who believes Commie values should be imposed on the masses.


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Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: dave1251] #5092610
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Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by grampi
As if motor oil prices weren't too high already...just keep sticking it to the consumer...



You are really not aware motor oil prices are very cheap. Nothing like a person who believes Commie values should be imposed on the masses.


When I see the store brand dino oils priced at $5 a qt, I don't see how you can think that's cheap...and how is not wanting consumer gouging a commie value?

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Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: grampi] #5092692
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Originally Posted by grampi

When I see the store brand dino oils priced at $5 a qt, I don't see how you can think that's cheap...and how is not wanting consumer gouging a commie value?


It's been that way for years now though. In fact, I can't even remember when the price for a quart of motor oil took off the way it did. 10yrs ago maybe? Before that, it seemed like conventional motor oils were a buck or two a quart forever.

Figures too. Napa full synthetic 5qts jugs were just something like $16.79 on sale. I didn't grab enough.

Last edited by JTK; 05/01/19 11:54 AM.

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Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: Y_K] #5093194
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Two wholly different markets. Crude is "high" but I think the OPEC/Russia collusion will start to crack over the next year. But going after people who buy from Iran, and the continuing implosion of Venezuela will maintain upward price pressure. Time will tell. My brothers in North Dakota don't mind one bit in the meanwhile.

Retail has changed. Notice how Amazon doesn't have any deals any more? Or are actually higher in price? Now that they've hooked everyone on the convenience of laziness they're raising priices like the neighborhood crack dealer. And a whole raft of online marketing consultants have finally figured out how to not cannibalize each others' markets and keep prices high.

Again, two totally different concepts.


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Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: grampi] #5093293
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Originally Posted by grampi
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by grampi
As if motor oil prices weren't too high already...just keep sticking it to the consumer...



You are really not aware motor oil prices are very cheap. Nothing like a person who believes Commie values should be imposed on the masses.


When I see the store brand dino oils priced at $5 a qt, I don't see how you can think that's cheap...and how is not wanting consumer gouging a commie value?


Supertech 5w30 High Mileage Full Synthetic: $12.97 for 5qts, or $2.594 per quart.

Supertech 5w30 Conventional: $12.88 for 5 quarts, or $2.576 per quart.

Havoline 5w30 full synthetic smart change box: $19.97 for 6 quarts, or $3.328 per quart.

Havoline 5w30 conventional smart change box: $14.97 for 6qts, or $2.495 per quart. Cheaper than Walmart’s Supertech!

Where are you finding these store brand oils for more than $5 a quart? Even Mobil1 is $22.88 for 5 quarts.


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Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: Y_K] #5093373
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I am thinking the other two additive companies are possibily Afton and Oronite???

This sounds somewhat familiar to what we heard towards the middle of last year in May and June if I remember correctly...


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Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: Skippy722] #5093448
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Originally Posted by Skippy722
Originally Posted by grampi
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by grampi
As if motor oil prices weren't too high already...just keep sticking it to the consumer...



You are really not aware motor oil prices are very cheap. Nothing like a person who believes Commie values should be imposed on the masses.


When I see the store brand dino oils priced at $5 a qt, I don't see how you can think that's cheap...and how is not wanting consumer gouging a commie value?


Supertech 5w30 High Mileage Full Synthetic: $12.97 for 5qts, or $2.594 per quart.

Supertech 5w30 Conventional: $12.88 for 5 quarts, or $2.576 per quart.


Havoline 5w30 full synthetic smart change box: $19.97 for 6 quarts, or $3.328 per quart.

Havoline 5w30 conventional smart change box: $14.97 for 6qts, or $2.495 per quart. Cheaper than Walmart’s Supertech!

Where are you finding these store brand oils for more than $5 a quart? Even Mobil1 is $22.88 for 5 quarts.


In every retail store I visit. Where are you finding these prices? Walmart is the only place I've been to that sells oil for under $3 a qt for dino...

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Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: Skippy722] #5093468
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Originally Posted by Skippy722

Where are you finding these store brand oils for more than $5 a quart? Even Mobil1 is $22.88 for 5 quarts.


I wondered the same thing but then remembered that we have a subset of people here who will gladly pay 1.5X as much or more for the same oil so as to keep the moral high ground to never shop at WM.


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Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: Ifixyawata] #5093487
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Originally Posted by Ifixyawata
Originally Posted by Skippy722

Where are you finding these store brand oils for more than $5 a quart? Even Mobil1 is $22.88 for 5 quarts.


I wondered the same thing but then remembered that we have a subset of people here who will gladly pay 1.5X as much or more for the same oil so as to keep the moral high ground to never shop at WM.


WM is the only place I buy my oil...it's too expensive anywhere else...

Re: 2019 Lubricant Price Increase coming, notice from distributor [Re: grampi] #5093493
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Originally Posted by grampi
Originally Posted by Ifixyawata
Originally Posted by Skippy722

Where are you finding these store brand oils for more than $5 a quart? Even Mobil1 is $22.88 for 5 quarts.


I wondered the same thing but then remembered that we have a subset of people here who will gladly pay 1.5X as much or more for the same oil so as to keep the moral high ground to never shop at WM.


WM is the only place I buy my oil...it's too expensive anywhere else...


I would only go somewhere besides WM if it's a deep clearance. I'm not saying WM is a great place in any way but it's cheap.


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