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Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: cjcride] #5091504
04/30/19 11:28 AM
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I can't remember the last time I've had a full-sugar soda. I was drinking diet sodas for a while, Coke Zero and Pepsi Max were my favorites but I try to stay clear of those also because of my paranoia about artificial sweeteners and cancer, etc.

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Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: cjcride] #5091527
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I drink that grape flavored Propel water most of the time. It's sweetened with Splenda. I'm a big fan of CocaCola, but I worry about getting diabetes from it. I drink the Coke only on special occasions.

Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: skyactiv] #5091580
04/30/19 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by skyactiv
My wife and I are thin and we drink diet sodas. She likes her diet Sunkist and I like Diet Coke.


Although taboo technically Diet pop is Keto friendly and I will indulge in a Diet Sunkist Orange, Diet Vanilla, Diet Vanilla Coke or Coke Zero from time to time without jeopardizing my diet.
I used to be a Diet-Coke-aholic a few years back and was like that from the 1980's when they introduced it.

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Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: das_peikko] #5091582
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Originally Posted by das_peikko
I drink that grape flavored Propel water most of the time. It's sweetened with Splenda. I'm a big fan of CocaCola, but I worry about getting diabetes from it. I drink the Coke only on special occasions.

Splenda is still somewhat sugar because it's a synthetic sugar but modified into an artificial sweetener. It is also a very unhealthy chemical like Aspartame just so you know. It has been linked to Cancer in high amounts in rats.

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Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: cjcride] #5091583
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The chemicals in the diet soda are no prize either. They may actually be more harmful to you than sugary soda's. The key is not consuming a LOT of either one. An occasional soda is no big deal. Stay away from the HFCS though. That's just poison. At least regular sugar is found in nature.


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Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: Quattro Pete] #5091591
04/30/19 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Quattro Pete
Why not just reduce the sugar content by say 30% or more?

AFAIK, Coke Life was discontinued recently due to poor sales.


I just bought a 12 pack of life

As for just reducing sugar it would taste like seltzer
I might like that but most wouldn’t

Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: cjcride] #5091597
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Living here in Mexico City, I really see the "power" that soft drinks have. Sodas are cheaper than milk, and in some cases water, thus poor people tend to consume a large amount of sodas. I regularly see people begging on the streets and their small children are drinking Coke. My wife and have fought an uphill battle to make sure our 8 year old doesn't drink sugary drinks (juice soda etc) but it is really hard especially since you cannot drink tap water (well you can but you'll be sitting on the toilet all night), but we still only buy water (I have to carry the 20L jugs up 4 flights of stairs). We occasionally do allow our kiddo to drink a soda at parties or special events, but we don't keep any at home. Mexico has surpassed the US in obesity rates and is a very high consumer of sugary drinks. Not only do sugary drinks give you diabetes and weight gain, but the acids in sodas really mess up your teeth. The phosphoric acid in sodas dissolves the enamel and causes cavities. Avoiding soda and sugary drinks is a great way to stay healthy and lose weight. I really don't miss them at all.

Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: expat] #5091617
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Originally Posted by expat
Fare enough.

But kids get hooked on this junk via branding and peer pressure. Sad to see so many obese kids around.

Back then kids were active, allowing to run around and cause havoc (and burn calories). Back then soda and sugary snacks were still around.

Now, kids are more sedentary as they are on their tablets or smartphones, while drinking sodas and eating sugary snacks.


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Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: StevieC] #5091635
04/30/19 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by StevieC
Splenda is still somewhat sugar because it's a synthetic sugar but modified into an artificial sweetener. It is also a very unhealthy chemical like Aspartame just so you know. It has been linked to Cancer in high amounts in rats.


I've heard the Aspartame being linked to cancer, but not Splenda. I've had occasions in the past where Aspartame would give me bad headaches, so I stay away from that stuff.

Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: das_peikko] #5091650
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Originally Posted by das_peikko
Originally Posted by StevieC
Splenda is still somewhat sugar because it's a synthetic sugar but modified into an artificial sweetener. It is also a very unhealthy chemical like Aspartame just so you know. It has been linked to Cancer in high amounts in rats.


I've heard the Aspartame being linked to cancer, but not Splenda. I've had occasions in the past where Aspartame would give me bad headaches, so I stay away from that stuff.

I know Apartame is bad for me and I've read all there is on it which is why I don't consume it like water any longer and limit myself to the occasional beverage even though the EU seems to think it's safe being one of the most studied artificial sweeteners on the planet.

Here is what they say about Splenda - https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/artificial-sweeteners-fact-sheet

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Sucralose, marketed under the trade name Splenda®, was approved by the FDA as a sweetening agent for specific food types in 1998, followed by approval as a general-purpose sweetener in 1999. Sucralose has been studied extensively, and the FDA reviewed more than 110 safety studies in support of its approval of the use of sucralose as a general-purpose sweetener for food.

In 2016, the same laboratory that conducted the aspartame studies discussed above reported an increased incidence of blood cell tumors in male mice fed high doses of sucralose.

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Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: cjcride] #5091657
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Different countries prefer different tastes for their pop. We prefer ours very sweet and slightly flat. If Coca Cola or Pepsi try to sell something else, it will fail because it's not what we like.

Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: UG_Passat] #5091676
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Originally Posted by UG_Passat
Back then kids were active, allowing to run around and cause havoc (and burn calories). Back then soda and sugary snacks were still around.

Now, kids are more sedentary as they are on their tablets or smartphones, while drinking sodas and eating sugary snacks.

Yep. I remember the good old days of mothers mixing Hi-C in a pitcher and adding all that sugar after we played hard. Also, diets were high in fats. Stuff was cooked with collected bacon grease in a can sitting on the stove. None of us were fat.

These so called energy drinks that kids like these days are full of stuff you wouldn’t want anyway to stay healthy.


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Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: expat] #5091683
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Originally Posted by expat
Fare enough.

But kids get hooked on this junk via branding and peer pressure. Sad to see so many obese kids around.

That's the problem they seem to aim their advertising at a younger audience, I guess they need to cultivate the next generation of obese diabetics.


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Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: oil_film_movies] #5091696
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Originally Posted by oil_film_movies
Too many 300 lb people getting long term health care in the millions of dollars.

Agreed.

....and they demand social Security disability payments,

reserved handicapped parking spaces

and electric mobility carts supplied by the big box store so they can putter around and buy more junk food


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Re: Sodas not reducing sugar content? [Re: StevieC] #5091703
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Sucralose, marketed under the trade name Splenda®, was approved by the FDA as a sweetening agent for specific food types in 1998, followed by approval as a general-purpose sweetener in 1999. Sucralose has been studied extensively, and the FDA reviewed more than 110 safety studies in support of its approval of the use of sucralose as a general-purpose sweetener for food.

In 2016, the same laboratory that conducted the aspartame studies discussed above reported an increased incidence of blood cell tumors in male mice fed high doses of sucralose.

I looked up sucralose on the internet, and that chemical scares me. You're better off drinking sugared drinks. I drank some beverages with sucralose a while ago and I detected a "pool water" taste to it. Sucralose has a chlorine atom in it.

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