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Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: talest] #5086468 04/25/19 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by talest
Why are we not talking about what kind of motor oil these UFOs use.
It's Soylent Green.

Arthur C Clarke's three laws:

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.


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Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: buster] #5086492 04/25/19 09:39 PM
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Unfortunately there is much sensationalism surrounding this whole UFO issue and very few physical facts and hard evidence.

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Physicist Don Lincoln suggested that it was "very unlikely that what these pilots are reporting turns out to be an unfriendly superweapon or an alien craft," however he would like to see the reports investigated "under the premise that the best science is done when as many opinions are considered as possible, preferably in the open and subject to peer review." According to Lincoln, "unidentified doesn't mean flying saucer or a Russian super weapon. It merely means unidentified." [21][22]...

According to Steve Cummings of Raytheon Space and Airborne Systems, the video images captured by a Raytheon-made Advanced Targeting Forward Look Infrared sensor (ATFLIR) are not definitive proof that the jet pilots were chasing an actual UFO. Cummings noted, "To really be sure, we would need the raw data. Visual displays alone are not the best evidence".[24]...

USS Nimitz UFO Incident, Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Nimitz_UFO_incident


I very much agree with physicist Don Lincoln. Let's impanel a group of physicists, chemists, meteorologists, radar experts, Optical Imaging experts, Computer scientists, etc, not connected with any DOD group for two years, with a decent budget and look at the real physical evidence (if there is any), such as recording of radar images, FLIR images, etc.

I don't think we can entrust this topic to any one such person as Luis Elizondo or to any one group such as the The Stars Academy of Arts & Science.

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The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP)[1] was a secret investigatory effort funded by the United States Government to study unidentified flying objects, but it was not classified. The program was first made public on December 16, 2017. The program began in 2007, with funding of $22 million over the five years until the available appropriations were ended in 2012.[2][3][4] The program began in the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency.[5] Although the official AATIP program has ended, a related group of interested professionals have extended the effort, founding a nonprofit organization called "The Stars Academy of Arts & Science ".[6][7]


Further, consider Ball Lightning. We are just beginning to understand this natural phenomena in terms of electrostatics and plasmas.

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The value of a scientific theory is its ability to prompt further study, not that it has any relation to the established facts of scientific reality.
Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: buster] #5086505 04/25/19 09:50 PM
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I seen two of these fly over my head one day. Guess what.....I believe. Youtube....cigar shaped ufo.
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Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: buster] #5086537 04/25/19 10:09 PM
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Until they make contact I`m a doubter at the same time crop circles etc are tantalizing.
As to other planets with life as we know it there are other stars with planets in the goldlilocks zone, however, the earth has a moon which causes tides that helps keep the oceans clean. There are so many other features of earth that are so unique as to seem impossible.
Intelligent design, or?


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Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: fisher83] #5086569 04/25/19 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fisher83
Lots of people claim to see extraordinary things. Bigfoot, aliens, flying saucers, angels, ghosts, etc. The imagination is an incredible thing and the police, military, and other trusted figures are not immune. When we don’t know the answer to things we tend to fill in the blanks with delusions of the extraordinary or supernatural.


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Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: buster] #5086575 04/25/19 10:59 PM
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All you need to know

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So keep in mind how much you paid for this advice.
Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: buster] #5086616 04/26/19 12:11 AM
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My step dad used for work for NASA in Florida before Obama shut it down.

My stepdad told me his boss when asked will simply say there are things in the universe that we the general public have no knowledge about.

Take it for what its worth people,and also know this,I've got pictures in my own email of pictures of NASA related launches that the public has never seen.

Many people have information,if they choose to share that,thats another thing.


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Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: buster] #5086640 04/26/19 01:41 AM
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I saw the donuts on a rope contrail and a quick fleeting glance of a glint from an aircraft hauling donkey way back in the 1990's. Northern California, Thanksgiving Day about 8 am. Craft was flying due South. UFO? Yes. Explanation....possibly the purported Aurora. Is it possible we are being visited by alien aircraft? Possible I suppose but unless someone figures out faster than speed of light travel, highly improbable.
I saw a television show that explained all sorts of paranormal anomalies as parallel existences that cross over into our realm. Many physicists say there may be validity to this belief. Explains a lot if true.

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Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: buster] #5086660 04/26/19 03:29 AM
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Check into Dr. Greer's "Disclosure Project", lots of good information and professional witnesses.

Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: buster] #5086674 04/26/19 05:09 AM
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To think we are the only beings that exist in the universe imo is totally wrong.


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I try to keep my my mind open on this but its hard without any real tangible evidence.

Religion and ufo's fall into the same category in my mind.

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The supposed death of Kim Jong Il was a ruse, now he spends his time taunting the US armed forces in a flying saucer he designed and built himself!
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Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: madRiver] #5086710 04/26/19 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by madRiver
I try to keep my my mind open on this but its hard without any real tangible evidence.

Religion and ufo's fall into the same category in my mind.


Agreed there have been common visual events that occur a century apart or more going back thousands of years.
Light displays could be caused by most anything and it’s easy to leap to a conclusion when you don’t know what it is.
My father in the UP encountered the paulding light up close over his pickup, very bright, it drained his battery and moved linearly on the power line.
He also had encountered ball lightning close up twice , which is extraordinarily rare Oddly ball lightning is extremely rare but very common in the UP compared to other regions. He noted a light in the sky over Lake Superior moving rapidly and irradically.

Next it has been found that a sleeping human exposed to the correct magnetic radiation will dream about grays
I’ve had many dreams where I felt awake (not about aliens) and my guess is we have a vivid imagination that in itself isn’t fully understood

Re: How angry pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings [Re: demarpaint] #5086869 04/26/19 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by demarpaint
To think we are the only beings that exist in the universe imo is totally wrong.

This ^^^

I also think the reason the US government and world governments aren't admitting to these UFO's is because they don't want to admit that there are things they don't understand because it admits a gap in their security and they also don't want to institute panic with the public. Also think of what that would mean for various faiths and what problem that could create if their worlds were turned upside down by the admission of the existence of life from other worlds.

That's my take. And to the OP, cool thread. Thanks thumbsup

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