Hello everyone. I am trying to learn and understand, that is the point of my thread. Why do some dislike Fram so much? Lets take their PH line for example. Is it the so called cardboard end caps? Does that really matter as they have nothing to do with the filtering itself? The filters have a silicone antidrainbacl valve so that is not it. The price is not leaps and bounds higher or lower than a competitor for example. So, what is it? Is it all about some long time dead reputation from decaces a go that is no longer relevant? The Fram PH2 is $0.09 cheaper than the Motorcraft FL820S for my truck, so it can not be about the price. Help me understand why all there is Fram hate in the automotive community.