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Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: jakeyjohn1] #5071567 04/11/19 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jakeyjohn1
If you're comparing xW-30 and xW-40 weight oils that meet the same standards without knowing their chemistry what else are you going to compare? If the engine is specc'd for xW-30 and xW-40 both should flow sufficiently, but "just the same"? They by definition flow differently, how do you draw the conclusion that they will flow the same?

In terms of oil flow to critical components that were listed, doesn't the oil pump place the same volume into circulation regardless of the viscosity? Especially here since the difference will be small at operating conditions - where the grade designation comes into play.


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Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: oliver88] #5071579 04/11/19 01:00 PM
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And where is OP?


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Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: kschachn] #5071582 04/11/19 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
In terms of oil flow to critical components that were listed, doesn't the oil pump place the same volume into circulation regardless of the viscosity? Especially here since the difference will be small at operating conditions - where the grade designation comes into play.

I believe you are correct about oil flow. But, it takes more horsepower to turn the oil pump. For example, I once tried Redline 5W-40 in our bought new by us 2006 Mercedes C-class (which is thankfully gone, what a total POS that thing was). Normally I used Euro Castro’s 0W-30. On the first overnight cold start the motor was UNBELIEVABLY sluggish. It revved like the engine had some kind of flywheel brake on it.

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Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: oliver88] #5073054 04/12/19 08:12 PM
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Total 0w-30. I’ve run it in M-B’s that we used to have. Buy it on Amazon, in 18 liter pack. Not cheap at 135 bucks but it worked well for me. It’s 502 and 229.5 approved.


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Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: oliver88] #5074638 04/14/19 12:47 PM
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Check out oilspecifications.org

Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: oliver88] #5076386 04/16/19 06:06 AM
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Here’s a 229.51.


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If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: oliver88] #5079183 04/18/19 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by oliver88
Any suggestions ?

Castrol 0/40 has both, Motul Excess 5 40 has both

Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: Bullwinkle007] #5079194 04/18/19 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle007
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Any suggestions ?

Castrol 0/40 has both, Motul Excess 5 40 has both


Problem is, he asked for 0/5W30 options.


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Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: Snagglefoot] #5079830 04/19/19 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
Here’s a 229.51.



229.5 and 229.51 are very different.


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Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: oliver88] #5080041 04/19/19 03:54 PM
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If 5W40 is an option, Valvoline Advanced MST is on sale at NAPA for $5.

Re: Need a 0/5W30 that is VW 502 and MB 229.5 [Re: newtoncd8] #5084695 04/24/19 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by newtoncd8
Originally Posted by Bullwinkle007
Originally Posted by oliver88
Any suggestions ?

Castrol 0/40 has both, Motul Excess 5 40 has both


Problem is, he asked for 0/5W30 options.


The 2 oils I mentioned are easy to obtain, both available on Amazon, I personally prefer the Motul 5/40. I personally have zero use for 0wt, honestly engines run better using 5wt and above.

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