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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: LoneRanger] #5069516 04/09/19 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Sherman
0-60 MPH in 9.7 seconds? Bet that would be unpleasant loading it up with passengers and cargo, and trying to merge onto a highway on a hot day with the A/C running.

Originally Posted by LoneRanger
She wants to go drive the one on sale. Will report back. Expect it might not be able to get out of it's own way.


There's an '09 Forester in your sig.

The '09 Forester accelerates to 60 in...10 seconds

Is the RAV4 she's upgrading from the 4-banger?

With that said, the 2.5L in my Legacy accelerates to 60 around a second faster than the Terrain. I think ~9 seconds to 60 is more than adequate, though my DESIRE for a more powerful engine is definitely always present while driving the Legacy.


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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: LoneRanger] #5069529 04/09/19 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Sherman
0-60 MPH in 9.7 seconds? Bet that would be unpleasant loading it up with passengers and cargo, and trying to merge onto a highway on a hot day with the A/C running.


That's faster than my Jeep. laugh


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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: DGXR] #5069531 04/09/19 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DGXR
Originally Posted by LoneRanger
GM used to source their diesels from Isuzu (showing my age...)
Do they manufacture their own now or do they still source them from a "partner"?

With GM, I believe they are all designed, engineered and built in-house. Technology and proven designs are often shared ("borrowed") from partner companies (Holden, others?).

1.6 is definitely derived from Isuzu. Those are engines that OPEL was developing with Isuzu in Europe.
These GM diesels are bit better in the last 10-15 years. Before that, they were atrocity.


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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: LoneRanger] #5069568 04/09/19 04:23 PM
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Since when is 0-60 under 10 seconds slow for a truck?

I think my 70 electra 455 was just a tad under 9 seconds.

That diesel engine makes Ford 4.3L V8 torque. You know early windsor SBF 260.

The 1.4t in my VW will rip the halfshafts out if you nail it in first or second. But, Stickshift smile


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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: LoneRanger] #5069576 04/09/19 04:35 PM
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Just wait until Ford starts pushing their Romanian 3 banger EcoBoost engines. It’s the trend.

Also, that three cylinder has CD so it runs on two cylinders at times.


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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: LoneRanger] #5069596 04/09/19 04:58 PM
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I would not really look at a diesel if her DD is just city. Stop and go, constant regens, your mileage would vary but this is not great for a diesel. If she has a solid mix of highway, then you could probably realize some savings.

Those diesels, if I recall, use timing belts, they need DEF, fuel filters, the cost differential has really narrowed between them and gassers.

I love my diesel 3500 but it is not an economic DD. On the open highway and with a trailer though, nothing will touch it.


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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: PimTac] #5069597 04/09/19 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PimTac
Just wait until Ford starts pushing their Romanian 3 banger EcoBoost engines. It’s the trend.

Also, that three cylinder has CD so it runs on two cylinders at times.


I have 72,000 miles on my 3-cylinder EcoBoost and it’s an excellent engine. Flawless so far. Smooth, light and efficient.


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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5069600 04/09/19 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Blkstanger
Why didn't they go with the 2.8 that went into the Colorado?
Probably because they are trying to sell the Colorado and a 2.8 Terrain would compete with it. I also long for the days when GM would put an iron duke in anything that had four wheels or floated.


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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: LoneRanger] #5069684 04/09/19 06:28 PM
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And how often will you have to fill the DEF fluid tank?

Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: LoneRanger] #5069710 04/09/19 07:02 PM
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I have had problems galore with the emission systems on my diesel vans. I have spent thousands extra to keep them running. Gasoline would have been a lot cheaper. Finally got rid of them. I will NEVER own another diesel again!!

Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: LoneRanger] #5069720 04/09/19 07:12 PM
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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: Blkstanger] #5069763 04/09/19 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blkstanger
Why didn't they go with the 2.8 that went into the Colorado?

Yes why, weight? At least 2.0 would be needed to get any interest here. The small turboed engines make the commies quiver.


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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: LoneRanger] #5070384 04/10/19 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneRanger


That may work for a Cruze, but on a vehicle as heavy as the Terrain? I'll pass.

Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: walterjay] #5070910 04/10/19 07:41 PM
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I have had problems galore with the emission systems on my diesel vans. I have spent thousands extra to keep them running. Gasoline would have been a lot cheaper. Finally got rid of them. I will NEVER own another diesel again!!

All post 2009 have SCR. This new third generation SCR is better. I had 1st gen. SCR system on BMW and it was nightmare. To make things worse, BMW to keep perfect weight distribution installed two tanks, and with that lots of plumbing in between.
Diagnosis of what is exactly wrong is probably the worst. Good thing is that many parts fit all these diesels as they are jointly developed.


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Re: 2018 GMC Terrain 1.6L turbo-diesel, Whaaaat? [Re: LoneRanger] #5070928 04/10/19 07:57 PM
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A local flat bed tow operator just bought a Ford v10 instead of a diesel, cited the expense of todays diesels. He hauled the 74 GMC I recently bought and the V10 was impressive, wouldn`t know it was there.


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