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Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: Bud] #5068284
04/08/19 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bud
People in my area get very frustrated if you are driving the speed limit. That makes you a slow driver.


The posted number of the "speed limit" signs back in the day were supposed to be the maximum speed allowed. Over time, they have turned into the bare minimum acceptable speed. At least 15 over the minimum is preferred, 25 over is generally acceptable if you are not weaving in and out of traffic on multi lane roads.

The 25MPH speed limit signs in New York City are a practical joke for the benefit of out of towners. Skateboarders, scooters, bicycles and fast joggers go at least that fast.

Also note that in New York City, red lights mean that you should exercise caution when gunning through the intersection. Green light means shut your eyes and step on the gas as you go through.

Its a shame they do not teach these new rules to the new drivers in town who are learning about our traffic laws, it would solve a lot of the confusion out on the roads in my city.

Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: c502cid] #5068288
04/08/19 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by c502cid
Nice knowing there are judge, jury, and executioners in every thing we do.
I'm glad you're glad. Now hand me the rope.


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Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: y_p_w] #5068408
04/08/19 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by y_p_w
Tonight I was taking a road home where I encountered two drivers who were just infuriating to be behind. It was only one lane in each direction, and this guy was driving less than 20 MPH with nothing ahead, and even slowed down to less than 15 MPH at every intersection, including at green lights and when there was no stop signs in our direction (but stop signs in the perpendicular directions). I thought that would be it, but I got stuck behind another driver doing basically the same thing. Drive at a crawl, then at every intersection slow down even without any pedestrians or even vehicle lights.

Also - this morning I stopped at a stop sign where there was someone crossing at an intersection. I then proceed when the pedestrian is well past me. Then I hear a honk, and right a stop sign there's someone who started moving with that pedestrian right in front of his car. He of course stopped after hearing the honk, but I'm not sure he wouldn't have just plowed into her without warning. I gave him a staredown as I drove by him. I've occasional seen drivers where I wonder if they really shouldn't have their driver licenses revoked.

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Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: y_p_w] #5068421
04/08/19 03:54 PM
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I end up trapped behind one of these people at least twice a day. I can't tell if it's fear, blindness, incompetence, or directionally challenged, but it's clear that no kind of real competency tests are given to drivers anymore. 45mph on Central Expressway or George Bush Tollway at rush hour is begging to be plowed over, but people do it regularly, usually with a death grip on the wheel and leaned forward in the seat. Secondary roads and frontage roads are filled with them. These people seriously need to be evaluated for competence to be behind the wheel of a car. If you're so scared, blind, or incompetent that you don't feel safe enough to keep up with traffic, public transportation has your name written all over it. If you're lost, do the right thing and pull over to orient yourself. You're a hazard to everyone around you.

Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: y_p_w] #5068439
04/08/19 04:11 PM
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I'm 17 and have only been driving for just over a year, but some of the stuff I see seriously shocks me. I have had people almost hit me head-on driving the wrong way down a certain one-way street a few different times now for a good example.

Oh, also, I usually work right after school and my work is on the same street as my school, about 2 miles down. The speed limit on this road is 35 and almost every time I leave school for work the "country boys" with their lifted pavement princesses always race past me doing easily 70-80mph, weaving in and out of cars just barely clipping their bumpers off, and nobody bats an eye...

but literally the ONE TIME I go 5 over and do 40 I get pulled over.

Last week though, one of them was weaving in and out of cars and ended up sliding into the ditch on the side, so I got some cheap entertainment on my drive to work that day.


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Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: WylieCoyote] #5068446
04/08/19 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WylieCoyote
I end up trapped behind one of these people at least twice a day. I can't tell if it's fear, blindness, incompetence, or directionally challenged, but it's clear that no kind of real competency tests are given to drivers anymore. 45mph on Central Expressway or George Bush Tollway at rush hour is begging to be plowed over, but people do it regularly, usually with a death grip on the wheel and leaned forward in the seat. Secondary roads and frontage roads are filled with them. These people seriously need to be evaluated for competence to be behind the wheel of a car. If you're so scared, blind, or incompetent that you don't feel safe enough to keep up with traffic, public transportation has your name written all over it. If you're lost, do the right thing and pull over to orient yourself. You're a hazard to everyone around you.

First thing that will fly out of the car with drivers like that in accident are teeth.


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Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: cwilliamsws6] #5068449
04/08/19 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cwilliamsws6
I'm 17 and have only been driving for just over a year, but some of the stuff I see seriously shocks me. I have had people almost hit me head-on driving the wrong way down a certain one-way street a few different times now for a good example.

Oh, also, I usually work right after school and my work is on the same street as my school, about 2 miles down. The speed limit on this road is 35 and almost every time I leave school for work the "country boys" with their lifted pavement princesses always race past me doing easily 70-80mph, weaving in and out of cars just barely clipping their bumpers off, and nobody bats an eye...

but literally the ONE TIME I go 5 over and do 40 I get pulled over.

Last week though, one of them was weaving in and out of cars and ended up sliding into the ditch on the side, so I got some cheap entertainment on my drive to work that day.

Speed is very often not a problem as skill and some bizarre behavior.
When I drive on auto bahn in Germany, on parts where people do 120mph and more like it is a joke, actually it is relaxing. Because everyone fallows the rules. Speed is not noticeable.
When I go home to Bosnia, driving on hwy, everyone only passes in left lane, go back to right lane immediately. Everyone gives signal when passing. NO ONE passes on the right. It is relaxing. I come back to Denver airport, drive an hour to Colorado Springs and I have a feeling grandma in Toyota Avalon wants to kill me while doing 40 in left lane where speed limit is 75.


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Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: WylieCoyote] #5068450
04/08/19 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WylieCoyote
I end up trapped behind one of these people at least twice a day. I can't tell if it's fear, blindness, incompetence, or directionally challenged, but it's clear that no kind of real competency tests are given to drivers anymore. 45mph on Central Expressway or George Bush Tollway at rush hour is begging to be plowed over, but people do it regularly, usually with a death grip on the wheel and leaned forward in the seat. Secondary roads and frontage roads are filled with them. These people seriously need to be evaluated for competence to be behind the wheel of a car. If you're so scared, blind, or incompetent that you don't feel safe enough to keep up with traffic, public transportation has your name written all over it. If you're lost, do the right thing and pull over to orient yourself. You're a hazard to everyone around you.


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Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: y_p_w] #5068647
04/08/19 07:39 PM
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"Speed is very often not a problem as skill and some bizarre behavior. "

...and situational awareness, which you probably and rightfully consider a skill. Tooling along in the left lane oblivious to the line behind you, the fact that you are not even pacing the middle lane and causing equally idiotic behavior as folks pass in the extreme right lanes, flying by entrance ramps faster than the flow.

Highway driving in most of Europe is an experience most of our drivers should see and discipline most should emulate.


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Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: ZeeOSix] #5068706
04/08/19 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by y_p_w
I've occasional seen drivers where I wonder if they really shouldn't have their driver licenses revoked.


My experiences would say about 1/4 the drivers on the road should be riding the bus instead of driving. eek


Only a 1/4?

Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: 02SE] #5068760
04/08/19 09:31 PM
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Only when I'm trying to merge onto a highway with them in front of me going 30mph, or when they completely stop when trying to merge onto the highway. Sure, some of the onramps here suck, but still... Complete stop + slow acceleration is not good.

Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: y_p_w] #5068809
04/08/19 10:19 PM
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I have an issue with the people doing 45 in a 55 for no reason. Every night I’ve gone home that way, I’ve gotten behind some knucklehead doing just that. Road is dry, yeah it’s 4am but it’s a relatively well lit area, road couldn’t be straighter, and it was redone a few years ago so it’s still nice and smooth.

But god forbid you pass them... they’ll start flashing their brights, honking, throwing middle fingers... smirk2


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Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: y_p_w] #5068823
04/08/19 10:47 PM
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Benzadmiral, it is very nerve racking for me driving in New Orleans lol, its nothing for my cousin who has lived there for 5 years.

I live an hour south of New Orleans, one way in, one way out, two lane roads, "down the bayou". Yet there are still people who have been living here their whole lives who drive way under the speed limit, which is 45 on the "front road" and 65 on the "backroad". For those of you familiar with the area, the front road is LA-1 and LA-308 while LA3235 is the backroad, which both lead to Grand Isle and Fourchon. Youre safe driving 5 mph over anywhere down here, except in Golden Meadow of course, 30 mph is strictly enforced. You can, and I regularly do, drive 60 in a 45 on LA 308 and parish cops wont bat an eye but state troopers will be quick to turn their car around. Out of towners usually drive extremely slow in the 45 mph area despite their being an abundance of 45 mph signs, yet they speed through Golden Meadow and wonder why they get stopped and given a ticket. Ahh, life on the bayou.


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Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: Skippy722] #5068824
04/08/19 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Skippy722
I have an issue with the people doing 45 in a 55 for no reason. Every night I’ve gone home that way, I’ve gotten behind some knucklehead doing just that. Road is dry, yeah it’s 4am but it’s a relatively well lit area, road couldn’t be straighter, and it was redone a few years ago so it’s still nice and smooth.

But god forbid you pass them... they’ll start flashing their brights, honking, throwing middle fingers... smirk2

I do remember the lower nighttime speed limit on the Overseas Highway across the Florida Keys.

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I also remember going to some nighttime program at a national park. At the end of the presentation the ranger was telling everyone that he recommended going 10 MPH under the speed limit to reduce the chances of hitting wildlife.

However, what I experienced was maybe 8 PM on well-lit city streets. I was going to through a thoroughfare and not side streets. And it seemed like this was just the way these drivers handled entering intersection - by slowing down at every single one, then crawling well under the speed limit.

Re: Anyone get frustrated when someone drives scared ahead [Re: 02SE] #5068908
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Originally Posted by 02SE
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by y_p_w
I've occasional seen drivers where I wonder if they really shouldn't have their driver licenses revoked.


My experiences would say about 1/4 the drivers on the road should be riding the bus instead of driving. eek


Only a 1/4?


As I drive closer to the big city it goes up to 1/3 or maybe 1/2 on a bad day. grin

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