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Re: Timing chain [Re: SHOZ] #5068601 04/08/19 06:49 PM
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Isn't there supposed to be a fixture or a special tool to keep the cams from rotating while you get everything else in position?

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Originally Posted by das_peikko
Isn't there supposed to be a fixture or a special tool to keep the cams from rotating while you get everything else in position?



The cams have a hex as most do. The way the chain is put on (counter clockwise) you start with the chain on the crank sprocket then move the cams just a bit to match the chain and when done it's all lined up. But I did stick a screwdriver under one lobe on the exhaust cam to secure it.


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Re: Timing chain [Re: das_peikko] #5068633 04/08/19 07:22 PM
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Never mind, Shoz answered it well.


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Re: Timing chain [Re: SHOZ] #5068694 04/08/19 08:31 PM
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That's a clean engine! What's your go-to oil?


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Re: Timing chain [Re: aquariuscsm] #5068720 04/08/19 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
That's a clean engine! What's your go-to oil?


Thanks. I use Mobil 1 and 5k mile OCI. Fram Ultra since they came out. 0W40 for the last few years, 5w30 for a couple of years.. But always has been synthetic since I dumped the factory fill. (5w20)

Here's the cams before I started.

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And the amount of slack.

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It takes the same chain as a Dodge and Mitsubishi motor, from their one time shared production or design arrangement.


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Re: Timing chain [Re: SHOZ] #5068778 04/08/19 09:51 PM
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Ouch only 97k for a chain?

I used to own a Dodge Caliber SRT4 with the 2.4L turbo World Engine, same family as this one I believe. Nice engines, very reliable. Is this engine known for eating chains/tensioners or is this an aberration?


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Re: Timing chain [Re: 92saturnsl2] #5068785 04/08/19 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 92saturnsl2
Ouch only 97k for a chain?

I used to own a Dodge Caliber SRT4 with the 2.4L turbo World Engine, same family as this one I believe. Nice engines, very reliable. Is this engine known for eating chains/tensioners or is this an aberration?
That's the connection. The OE chain I got is shared with the Sonata 2.4L motor too.


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Re: Timing chain [Re: SHOZ] #5068846 04/08/19 11:36 PM
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Nice pictures! thumbsup

IMO, if you didn't put the engine back together yet, you are probably still better off buying the new chain. Especially if the original needed replacing before 100k. There are *belts* that last longer than that mad

It seems like a difficult job that you definitely don't want to do again!

Re: Timing chain [Re: SHOZ] #5068993 04/09/19 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SHOZ
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
That's a clean engine! What's your go-to oil?


Thanks. I use Mobil 1 and 5k mile OCI. Fram Ultra since they came out. 0W40 for the last few years, 5w30 for a couple of years.. But always has been synthetic since I dumped the factory fill. (5w20)

Here's the cams before I started.

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And the amount of slack.

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It takes the same chain as a Dodge and Mitsubishi motor, from their one time shared production or design arrangement.


Honestly that engine is spotless! It looks like a brand new engine. No wear whatsoever on the camshafts. That must be a really good engine!


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Re: Timing chain [Re: SHOZ] #5068994 04/09/19 06:58 AM
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Have you been able to tell any difference between the oils you use? M1 0W40 is something I've always been curious about but have never tried it.


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Re: Timing chain [Re: slacktide_bitog] #5068999 04/09/19 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
Nice pictures! thumbsup

IMO, if you didn't put the engine back together yet, you are probably still better off buying the new chain. Especially if the original needed replacing before 100k. There are *belts* that last longer than that mad

It seems like a difficult job that you definitely don't want to do again!

If I didn't want to throw away the $50 the chain I got was and the better chain is $75 I would have. I doubt if the car sees another 100k miles at least with me driving it. smile I don't drive it near as high as I did when it was new. It's suspected the chain wasn't designed for the higher rpm (7500) vs the Sonata 2.4L that the OE chain was picked off the parts shelf from.

10 years or so ago I did a V8 with DOHC but it was out of the car at the time.


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Re: Timing chain [Re: aquariuscsm] #5069005 04/09/19 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Have you been able to tell any difference between the oils you use? M1 0W40 is something I've always been curious about but have never tried it.

I started out using M1 5w30. Had a couple oil test done and dilution was the only problem. One test was done after two track days and a 5k mile drive in between. The engine will actually 'make' oil as the dilution adds faster that if burns any oil , if any. Loose rings and high compression design I guess.


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Anyone remember this thread?


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Re: Timing chain [Re: SHOZ] #5069351 04/09/19 01:55 PM
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Just for the record Hyundai has come out with a beefier chain but when I ordered it got the old part. Didn't know until after I got it. Mitsubishi had problems too with their Evo motors that had the same chain.


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Re: Timing chain [Re: SHOZ] #5074832 04/14/19 04:22 PM
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Just want to say it all is back together and runs!.. I'm always nervous. Only the second time for a chain on a DOHC engine for me. Thanks for the help.

Couple of pics of the oil pump.

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