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by Bettez88 - 12/08/19 01:20 PM
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: daman]
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04/06/19 08:05 AM
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Trav
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The 0w40 will provide all the anti wear additives that are needed, forget the MoS2.
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: daman]
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04/06/19 09:24 AM
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skyactiv
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Here's my opinion. The tiniest particles in used engine oil affect the timing chain and it's related components while not affecting other engine parts. So if your concerned about such wear, I recommend shorter oil change intervals such as 5K miles. UOA's wont show you the wear rate of the timing chain in my opinion.
Seriously, which lubricated parts seem to wear out inside of today's modern engines? The timing chain and it's related components.
Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual Sold: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual Me: 18' Elantra Sport 6 speed manual
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: daman]
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04/06/19 10:59 AM
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JLTD
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Awhile back, someone posted a study that indicated a 10w offered more timing chain wear protection than a 5w or 0w.
Based on that I would consider a 10w-40 summer and your 0w-40 for winter.
I use the overseas manual to choose my viscosity.
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: skyactiv]
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04/06/19 02:36 PM
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bbhero
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Here's my opinion. The tiniest particles in used engine oil affect the timing chain and it's related components while not affecting other engine parts. So if your concerned about such wear, I recommend shorter oil change intervals such as 5K miles. UOA's wont show you the wear rate of the timing chain in my opinion.
Seriously, which lubricated parts seem to wear out inside of today's modern engines? The timing chain and it's related components.
A great post here in my opinion ^^↑^^^^^^^
Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe Napa full synthetic 5w30 Wix 57356 Oil filter "Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
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04/06/19 02:50 PM
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Linctex
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The tiniest particles in used engine oil affect the timing chain and it's related components while not affecting other engine parts.
I guess we should all be running added-on bypass oil filters
"The evidence demands a verdict". (Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
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04/06/19 03:55 PM
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Thanks guys, Trav I do believe the MoS2 will be a benefit as the 0w40 is lacking some IMO for this application, I do plan on shortening the OCI to 5k tops and using a FRAM ultra.
"Always"....Mobil 1
Current fill: AFE 0w30
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: JLTD]
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04/06/19 03:56 PM
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daman
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Awhile back, someone posted a study that indicated a 10w offered more timing chain wear protection than a 5w or 0w.
Based on that I would consider a 10w-40 summer and your 0w-40 for winter. Hmmm I must have missed that, thanks for the tip I may consider that next OC.
"Always"....Mobil 1
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: daman]
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04/06/19 03:57 PM
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Garak
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I'd say there's nothing wrong with just running an A3/B4 as it is, like the M1 0w-40 or any of the competition.
Plain, simple Garak.
2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, Wix 57356 1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
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04/06/19 05:41 PM
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OilUzer
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Awhile back, someone posted a study that indicated a 10w offered more timing chain wear protection than a 5w or 0w.
Based on that I would consider a 10w-40 summer and your 0w-40 for winter. Interesting since under operating temps where the engine spends most of its time, any xW30 will be a 30 assuming that 0x or 5x or 10x had relatively similar hths to begin with. Were they talking about 10W shearing less as oppose to 0 or 5W? I will have to search for this study!
Last edited by OilUzer; 04/06/19 05:42 PM.
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: OilUzer]
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04/06/19 06:19 PM
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Garak
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If one is concerned with VIIs, while motor oil has improved, I'm not sure a 10w-40 would be my choice of oils. If running conventional and worried about VIIs, I'd be looking to a 10w-30 or a 15w-40 first, assuming one isn't interested in monogrades (again, leaving aside the other end of the spectrum, high end VII free multigrades which are also, by definition, monogrades).
Plain, simple Garak.
2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, Wix 57356 1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: daman]
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04/06/19 06:32 PM
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Seeing as you don't have GDI, run a stout 5W30 and a bottle of Hy-per Lube ZRA.
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: Linctex]
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04/06/19 06:52 PM
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I guess so Never knew the tiny particles affect the timing chain so much I’m not gonna worry about my rod and main bearings my rings and valve seals and guides anymore I’ll sleep better at night now 👍
Last edited by kstanf150; 04/06/19 06:56 PM.
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: daman]
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04/06/19 07:02 PM
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Thanks guys, Trav I do believe the MoS2 will be a benefit as the 0w40 is lacking some IMO for this application, I do plan on shortening the OCI to 5k tops and using a FRAM ultra. Other than advertising hype do you have evidence MoS2 does anything?
make the inside of your engine oil cap white. don't use.
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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix?
[Re: daman]
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04/06/19 07:39 PM
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Just run the A3 0w40 and sleep well at night. It is a full SAPs formulation and is well additized in the proper balance for the quality additives it uses. Adding other antiwear additives could render the package less effective than as designed.
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Dealer 0w20 to M1 0w40 FS -it depends
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