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NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra #5065280
04/05/19 02:43 PM
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On sale for $5. How do they compare against the Fram Ultra?
Are they 100% synth? Who is tha manufacture?



NAPA Platinum oil filter


'14 Toyota Venza 3.5L 88K mi
TGMO 0W-20
PP 0W-20/Fram Ultra filter(spring/summer)


Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Patrick0525] #5065288
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The NAPA Platinum is made by Wix and is the same as the Wix XP and it is not a very efficient filter at all, despite having a synthetic media. I sent an email to Wix yesterday asking about the Wix XP efficiency and they told me it's 99% at 35 microns.


2018 Corvette, 13k, M1 ESP Formula 5w30 & NAPA Gold
2006 Civic EX Coupe, 151k, PUP 5w20 & Fram Ultra
2010 BMW 328i X-Drive,116k, GC 0w40 & Fram Ultra

Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Patman] #5065305
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Originally Posted by Patman
The NAPA Platinum is made by Wix and is the same as the Wix XP and it is not a very efficient filter at all, despite having a synthetic media. I sent an email to Wix yesterday asking about the Wix XP efficiency and they told me it's 99% at 35 microns.


Not good. This is my Fram Ultra(Venza) with a 10k mi OCI( with a 5K OC)

[Linked Image]


'14 Toyota Venza 3.5L 88K mi
TGMO 0W-20
PP 0W-20/Fram Ultra filter(spring/summer)


Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Patrick0525] #5065324
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Use the Fram Ultra!


"Always"....Mobil 1

Current fill: AFE 0w30
Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Patrick0525] #5065330
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Originally Posted by Patrick0525
On sale for $5. How do they compare against the Fram Ultra?
Are they 100% synth? Who is tha manufacture?



NAPA Platinum oil filter


One filter is pro-trapping
One filter is pro-flow.
Both are high quality. Use is dependent on need.


19 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4GDI Castrol Edge 5w30 / NAPA Mann-Hummel filter / 6oz Liqui-Moly Treatment
04 Colorado 3.5 Castrol Edge 0W40 Euro & K&N filter
03 Malibu 3.1 QS / Valv Syn 5w30 mix Fram EG filter
Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Patman] #5065354
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Originally Posted by Patman
The NAPA Platinum is made by Wix and is the same as the Wix XP and it is not a very efficient filter at all, despite having a synthetic media. I sent an email to Wix yesterday asking about the Wix XP efficiency and they told me it's 99% at 35 microns.


They use to say it was 50% @ 20u ... which is farther down on the efficiency curve. Obviously 99% @ 35u sounds better to the unknowing.

Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5065356
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
One filter is pro-trapping
One filter is pro-flow.
Both are high quality. Use is dependent on need.


Ultra flows very well ... and one filters way more efficiently. Again, PD oil pumps make "flow over filtration" a completely moot point. Now if you mounted oil filters on your kitchen sink faucet or refrigerator water circuit it might be a different story when talking about "flow over filtration".

Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Patrick0525] #5065360
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Originally Posted by Patrick0525
On sale for $5. How do they compare against the Fram Ultra?
Are they 100% synth? Who is tha manufacture?



NAPA Platinum oil filter



HINT: THE STREET THEY ARE MADE ON IS "ONE WIX WAY" (in NC).


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Patrick0525] #5065362
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Originally Posted by Patrick0525
This is my Fram Ultra (Venza) with a 10k mi OCI ( with a 5K OC)

[Linked Image]


Looks like I happened to use your PC data a while back when I made up this chart. Your data is Filter D (yellow line).

Oil Filter Particle Count Comparision (Data From BITOG UOAs).JPG
Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: ZeeOSix] #5065374
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix

Looks like I happened to use your PC data a while back when I made up this chart. Your data is Filter D (yellow line).


that's really quite good


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Linctex] #5065435
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Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix

Looks like I happened to use your PC data a while back when I made up this chart. Your data is Filter D (yellow line).


that's really quite good


Thanks. I am encouraged to do another Blackstone particle tests with only 5000 mi on the OC.


'14 Toyota Venza 3.5L 88K mi
TGMO 0W-20
PP 0W-20/Fram Ultra filter(spring/summer)


Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Patrick0525] #5065563
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Trico makes good filters.


2017 Mazda CX5
Havoline Pro DS 0w20
Roki OEM filter.
Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: PimTac] #5065572
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Originally Posted by PimTac
Trico makes good filters.

I guess good is relative. You would have to compare it to Fram Ultra for this to have meaning. When I found out the difference between the Ultra andt he Mobil1 filter I mmediately removed the Mobil1


Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Patrick0525] #5065575
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On that note, has anybody here had any experience with Donaldson filters, but in an automotive gasoline engine application, not a diesel or off road application?

I did find that they do make a filter for my engine #550162, but was curious if they use the same media that is touted to be excellent in their bigger filter apps.

Last edited by Dad2leia; 04/05/19 07:50 PM. Reason: Wrong phrasing at start of sentence..is not my thread

Yeah, whatever..at least for now.
Re: NAPA Platinum vs Fram Ultra [Re: Al] #5065594
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Originally Posted by Al
Originally Posted by PimTac
Trico makes good filters.

I guess good is relative. You would have to compare it to Fram Ultra for this to have meaning. When I found out the difference between the Ultra andt he Mobil1 filter I mmediately removed the Mobil1


Trico is the new owner of FRAM


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
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