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Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: ZeeOSix] #5046924 03/18/19 02:54 PM
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The 12060 has been released but instead of being the size of a 10575 which is just over 4 inches long it is the size of a 10060.This is from the Fram site. It’s only 3.3 inches long.


We knew it was going to be the same size as the 10060 all along though, as it's that same filter just with a 22psi bypass. It's meant to be a cross reference to the PF64, which is 3.3 inches long.


Since the 10575 is the GM/ATS V6 filter, you would think a 22psi version of that filter would be on the way too.


It is ...
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...alve-pressure-on-the-xg10575#Post5034093



Excellent! The 10575 with a 22psi bypass would be the perfect filter on the ATS.

Downside, without any markings on the box, I have no way to determine if it's the new or old filter. Fram should have put some indicator on the box, even if only for us nerds that would have to look closely.


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Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: webfors] #5046941 03/18/19 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by webfors


Excellent! The 10575 with a 22psi bypass would be the perfect filter on the ATS.

Downside, without any markings on the box, I have no way to determine if it's the new or old filter. Fram should have put some indicator on the box, even if only for us nerds that would have to look closely.


As mentioned in that thread, look at the color of the bypass valve.

Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: ZeeOSix] #5046997 03/18/19 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
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Excellent! The 10575 with a 22psi bypass would be the perfect filter on the ATS.

Downside, without any markings on the box, I have no way to determine if it's the new or old filter. Fram should have put some indicator on the box, even if only for us nerds that would have to look closely.


As mentioned in that thread, look at the color of the bypass valve.


I have yet to find an XG in an unsealed box, unless it's sloppy seconds with a 10% discount.


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Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: webfors] #5048380 03/19/19 08:57 PM
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Well , so long for waiting got a Wix WL10290 with 22 lbs psi for my Equinox . Very easy to obtain no guesswork . End of story

Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: LEADED] #5048387 03/19/19 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LEADED
Well , so long for waiting got a Wix WL10290 with 22 lbs psi for my Equinox . Very easy to obtain no guesswork . End of story


Yep … and with sealed up boxes I’m not going to be guessing at … or able to look inside the XG10575 (color) so just ordered a dozen Albert Champion PF63E …
(feeding two L83’s)
BiL the big winner who will get a half dozen XG10575 for the ecoboost …

Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: 4WD] #5048406 03/19/19 09:25 PM
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Agreed Napa 100290 was only 82 cents more than (PF64 -paper) no brainer here . Personally I am skeptical using XG1057t because of warranty 2019 Equinox.

Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: webfors] #5063510 04/03/19 08:19 PM
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Nobody has these filters yet. Why? I have to keep using the paper media based PF64 on my CTS-V. Any info from Fram on when Walmart or Amazon will have the XG12060?

Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: webfors] #5063760 04/04/19 06:48 AM
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Some people have mentioned being able to order the new XG12060 online but nobody has yet to see one in stores, even though it was supposed to be out in January. I thought I might find it at Walmarts in the US but I've checked a few now to no avail. I might just end up sticking with the NAPA Golds for a while.


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Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: LEADED] #5063787 04/04/19 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LEADED
Agreed Napa 100290 was only 82 cents more than (PF64 -paper) no brainer here . Personally I am skeptical using XG1057t because of warranty 2019 Equinox.


Got the PF63e's for $4/each and free shipping - so when I get back to the USA - plan to cut a new one and make sure they look OK inside ...

Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: Patman] #5063819 04/04/19 07:55 AM
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Frankly , Fram blew it , I am not going to use a wrong product . We have agreed that 10060 might compromise your Engine @ 15psi . PF64 - Wix WL10290 are set for correct setting @ 22 psi . No more guessing till 12060 comes out ? Mabe when [censored] freezes over .

Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: webfors] #5063886 04/04/19 08:44 AM
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Or just use an oversized filter with 50+ % more media to mitigate the potential of bypass events.

I was at the dealer yesterday for my regular service and mentioned I had a XG10575 on the car and that I wanted it back. I then asked them if this was a problem since it's the ATS V6 filter, which maps to the Champion COS10575 or COS10590 stash I have, and he said not at all. He said there would be no concern or warranty concern. I am going to email him to get it on record grin

I'm going to cut open a PF64 tonight and record the media area for comparison. I'm estimating the COS10590 has 50% more media.


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Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: webfors] #5063993 04/04/19 10:03 AM
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Here it is in the PH version.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/chevrolet,2018,corvette,6.2l+v8,3437533,engine,oil+filter,5340


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Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: webfors] #5065528 04/05/19 06:34 PM
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So far, Jegs is the only one that has them at $8.97 each.

https://www.jegs.com/i/Fram/410/XG12060/10002/-1

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Re: Fram XG12060 - GM 22psi spec Ultra coming soon! [Re: LEADED] #5065577 04/05/19 07:50 PM
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[quote=LEADED Fram blew it , I am not going to use a wrong product . We have agreed that 10060 might compromise your Engine @ 15psi . PF64 - . [/quote]
I put 190K miles on a Subaru using 15psi filters when Subaru called for 22 psi. Unless you run a filter 50K miles you won't have to worry about it. I use the Ultra in my '18XT Forester.


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