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Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: jbutch] #5062064 04/02/19 12:42 PM
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Hello Brian,

The product you can find instore already meets API SN Plus, but if you are still under warranty and your vehicle specifically calls for the Plus spec, you may want to wait til we've updated the labeling.

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Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: dieselguy67] #5062090 04/02/19 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dieselguy67
Let’s try again.

Hello Brian,

Please disregard my last e-mail - our technology manager confirmed that Rotella T6 Multi Vehicle 5W-30 does in fact meet API SN Plus. They will work on getting that up on our website.

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I wonder if the influx of email from bitog asking that question prompted them to look deeper.

Thats good news as it makes it even more suitable for TGDI like mine that trashes the oil.


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Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: jbutch] #5062106 04/02/19 01:09 PM
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I also got an email back saying that it is certified SN+.

Hi jbutch,


Yes. That apparently is a typo in the TDS and we requested correction.


Also, I was able to verify that the Rotella T6 Multi Vehicle 5W-30 does meet API SN Plus (recently got certification).

Soon we will see an update on TDS and Rotella Website.



Thank you.


The typo that is mentioned is regarding "Dynamic Viscosity @-20 c as per ASTM D5293 is 6200 mPas" where it should say -30 c.


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Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: jbutch] #5062493 04/02/19 07:51 PM
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The SN Plus rating has to be on the jug, or else I'm thinking the store has old stock.
The best suitable for TGDI and lspi has both SN Plus and Dexos1 Gen2 on the jug label.


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Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: jbutch] #5063679 04/04/19 01:33 AM
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I'd echo Gokhan's sentiment. I don't think you'll find an E6 in North America that isn't big on the magnesium. In any event, I wouldn't worry a lot. I don't think I've yet seen an owner's manual that calls for an SN+ 5w-30 in isolation, without a GF-5 or a proprietary specification alongside.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, Wix 57356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: oil_film_movies] #5063697 04/04/19 02:32 AM
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Think most folks would trust the oil - IMO, the "lukewarm" is just about the LT marketing part - I can't say my 5.3L truck engine has a tougher life than guys I know with sports cars they push real hard ...

Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: jbutch] #5067817 04/08/19 05:37 AM
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Small update, I changed the oil for Rotella MV 5w30 this weekend and went for a 800 km trip.

First few observations: boy, does this oil quiets down the engine! It's running really smooth.

Also, since the oil isn't RC, I was expecting more of a hit on MPG, but on the trip I haven't really seen a difference.

Will do an UOA around 8000 kms.


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Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: jbutch] #5073078 04/12/19 07:56 PM
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You'll never be able to measure the difference. I ran a 40 before and before that an ILSAC 30. The difference is obviously there, but it disappears into the background noise. You'll never measure it outside of a lab setting.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: jbutch] #5077890 04/17/19 01:49 PM
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What are the thoughts on running this oil in 2019 F-150 with the 3.5 H.O Ecoboost, what is the average oil change interval as well, is this oil good for 7-10K a year?

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Originally Posted by Steveinak
What are the thoughts on running this oil in 2019 F-150 with the 3.5 H.O Ecoboost, what is the average oil change interval as well, is this oil good for 7-10K a year?


IMO it would do great in that engine. However I'm not sure it has the certifications that Ford ask for. What does the user manual says?

As for long OCI, that oil is ACEA E6 and has a starting TBN of 11, so it sould do very well in long OCIs.

I currently have 1500km on this oil, I plan to do an UOA at 8000kms.


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Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: jbutch] #5077972 04/17/19 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jbutch
Originally Posted by Steveinak
What are the thoughts on running this oil in 2019 F-150 with the 3.5 H.O Ecoboost, what is the average oil change interval as well, is this oil good for 7-10K a year?


IMO it would do great in that engine. However I'm not sure it has the certifications that Ford ask for. What does the user manual says?

As for long OCI, that oil is ACEA E6 and has a starting TBN of 11, so it sould do very well in long OCIs.

I currently have 1500km on this oil, I plan to do an UOA at 8000kms.


Just states API SN 5W-30 or 0W-30

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Originally Posted by Steveinak
Originally Posted by jbutch
Originally Posted by Steveinak
What are the thoughts on running this oil in 2019 F-150 with the 3.5 H.O Ecoboost, what is the average oil change interval as well, is this oil good for 7-10K a year?


IMO it would do great in that engine. However I'm not sure it has the certifications that Ford ask for. What does the user manual says?

As for long OCI, that oil is ACEA E6 and has a starting TBN of 11, so it sould do very well in long OCIs.

I currently have 1500km on this oil, I plan to do an UOA at 8000kms.


Just states API SN 5W-30 or 0W-30


So it shouldn't void your warranty.

Can't say how well it performs until I get the uoa, but it runs pretty smooth and quiet. The QSUD would runs smooth and quiet as well, but it would shear in a 20 grade pretty fast and get louder in the process.

The RMV shouldn't shear as much (hopefully) because it is not a GF5 or RC oil.


2015 Forester XT @ 104k km
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Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: jbutch] #5078023 04/17/19 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jbutch
Originally Posted by Steveinak
Originally Posted by jbutch
Originally Posted by Steveinak
What are the thoughts on running this oil in 2019 F-150 with the 3.5 H.O Ecoboost, what is the average oil change interval as well, is this oil good for 7-10K a year?


IMO it would do great in that engine. However I'm not sure it has the certifications that Ford ask for. What does the user manual says?

As for long OCI, that oil is ACEA E6 and has a starting TBN of 11, so it sould do very well in long OCIs.

I currently have 1500km on this oil, I plan to do an UOA at 8000kms.


Just states API SN 5W-30 or 0W-30


So it shouldn't void your warranty.

Can't say how well it performs until I get the uoa, but it runs pretty smooth and quiet. The QSUD would runs smooth and quiet as well, but it would shear in a 20 grade pretty fast and get louder in the process.

The RMV shouldn't shear as much (hopefully) because it is not a GF5 or RC oil.


Sorry, Im thinking about the new oil they came out with--Rotella Gas Truck synthetic in 5W-30 flavor, its SN+, so im guessing that will fit the bill as well? I found Ford specs as WSS-M2C946-B1

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Re: Shell Rotella T6 5w-30 SN plus rating? [Re: Steveinak] #5083348 04/23/19 03:03 AM
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Using something with the actual Ford number on it would be best. Nonetheless, I would have confidence in the Rotella Multi-Vehicle 5w-30 in the application. I suspect its main problem is having higher HTHS than what Ford would prefer for fuel economy testing. The Rotella Gas Truck would be a more correct fit in that regard.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Since we talking about both RMV and SGT, here is a spreadsheet with several Shell products I posted a while back. Enjoy and sorry it’s a repeat.

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