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Re: Champion COS10575 & COS10590 - C&P [Re: ZeeOSix] #5059734 03/31/19 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by webfors
Measurements in cm:

COS10575: 5.6 (P) x 2 x 1.2 (D) x 8.0 (L) =107.52
COS10590: 5.6 (P) x 2 x 1.1 (D) x 9.3 (L) = 114.58

Looks like the COS10590 is the winner by approximately 6.2% more media.

How do these measurements stand up to other filters?


Looks like you're off by 10 times - you used 5.6 pleats instead of 56.

1075 sq-cm = 166.6 sq-in.

That's a pretty good amount of media area.


Doh!

Corrected calculations:
COS10575: 5.6 (P) x 2 x 1.2 (D) x 8.0 (L) =1075.20 cm squared = 166.7 inches squared
COS10590: 5.6 (P) x 2 x 1.1 (D) x 9.3 (L) = 1145.76 cm squared = 177.9 inches squared


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, Champion COS10590
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w30, Mopar MO-349
18 DL1000XT, Valvoline Dino 20w50, Suzuki OEM OF
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: Champion COS10575 & COS10590 - C&P [Re: webfors] #5059746 03/31/19 04:19 PM
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Now that we know the media area, what are the chances this won't flow well enough to make GM's 22psi bypass requirement a moot point.

Another thing I thought of recently, with the sudden increase in bypass specs, could this be related in some way to auto stop/start technology that has made its' way into every car?


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, Champion COS10590
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w30, Mopar MO-349
18 DL1000XT, Valvoline Dino 20w50, Suzuki OEM OF
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Re: Champion COS10575 & COS10590 - C&P [Re: webfors] #5060012 03/31/19 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by webfors
Now that we know the media area, what are the chances this won't flow well enough to make GM's 22psi bypass requirement a moot point.


Hard to say how these filters flow without actual "flow vs delta-p" test data. But since they are synthetic blend media and have a prettly large area, I'd say that they would flow very well. Changes of them bypassing is probably pretty remote under normal use conditions.

Re: Champion COSxxxx oil filters. Not shipped to California [Re: ZeeOSix] #5073233 04/13/19 12:57 AM
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Tried to buy champion oil filters but got this automatic response from RockAuto website:
"Part # COSXXXX cannot ship to California because we do not have documentation required by Proposition 65 from CHAMPION FILTER. Please choose a different brand.

I guess Champioon oil filters are not to be sold in California.

Re: Champion COSxxxx oil filters. Not shipped to California [Re: thrace] #5073255 04/13/19 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by thrace
Tried to buy champion oil filters but got this automatic response from RockAuto website:
"Part # COSXXXX cannot ship to California because we do not have documentation required by Proposition 65 from CHAMPION FILTER. Please choose a different brand.

I guess Champioon oil filters are not to be sold in California.


No I think the deal is that they got it without the original package and documentation, hence they can't provide info regarding prop 65 to the government.


Last edited by SlavaB; 04/13/19 02:15 AM.

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Re: Champion COSxxxx oil filters. Not shipped to California [Re: webfors] #5073935 04/13/19 07:27 PM
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Thanks for the c&p! I just ordered 8 of these cos10575’s to be used on my 2018 5.0 F150.

Re: Champion COSxxxx oil filters. Not shipped to California [Re: webfors] #5074000 04/13/19 08:46 PM
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Thanks for the well done C&P!!!


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Re: Champion COSxxxx oil filters. Not shipped to California [Re: thrace] #5074143 04/13/19 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thrace
Tried to buy champion oil filters but got this automatic response from RockAuto website:
"Part # COSXXXX cannot ship to California because we do not have documentation required by Proposition 65 from CHAMPION FILTER. Please choose a different brand.

I guess Champioon oil filters are not to be sold in California.

That's just because California sucks. And so who really cares lol

Re: Champion COS10575 & COS10590 - C&P [Re: webfors] #5074521 04/14/19 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by webfors
I picked up my $1.30 Champion filters, so I decided to cut a couple open. Hybrid media, good filtering efficiency, silicon ADBV, nice basic construction, and good strong media with strong bonding. Each filter had 56 pleats.

https://fme-cat.com/livedocs/Oil%20Filter%20Sell%20Sheet_052317.pdf

Differences between the two; I noticed the 10575 was heavier than the 10590, which was strange considering the 10590 being a larger filter. After looking at the cut open parts, it was the baseplate. The 10575 base plate was much heavier.

COS10575: has a traditional coil spring, which directly connected to the bypass valve. The media appeared to have a slight advantage with respect to how deep the media went before hitting the centre cage.

COS10590: has a leaf spring, with a bypass valve with internal spring/design. The media was more evenly spaced vs the 10575. There was some corrosion in the bottom of the can.

They both appeared to have about the same pressure relief when I tested them with the trusty pen grin

I feel ok using these in the Cadillac for the ~5k they will see. I know I said I was done with paper filters, but I'm really starting to not care as much about this stuff as I used to. Must be the age. These are definitely an upgrade from the OEM PF64.

Enjoy the pics:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/io7eyrnf9zfvv76/AADWfXLholqT7xZkh7pCpMA7a?dl=0

I'll cut and paste them as they are used over the next couple of years.


I think those are similar to M1 filters and are synthetic blend. I'm with you though in that I think paper media can do just fine for 5k.

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