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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: tony1679] #5058440 03/30/19 07:54 AM
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You want a customizable vehicle? Then buy a Ford, GM or Chrysler/Dodge vehicle with their endless and confusing lists of options and packages. I agree that Acura overdoes it with complexity, and the A/T is like many other 8, 9 or 10 speeds that shift to second gear at 3 mph. At least most of today's cars are much more reliable than those from two decades ago. Sometimes we just have to take our medicine.


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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: tony1679] #5058460 03/30/19 08:27 AM
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Great post, thanks. I've had recent used RDX's ('14-'17ish) on my short list as a possible replacement for our aging money pit '04 PT Cruiser. My wife and I have been out of the new car buying loop for 15 years, and we're shocked at what is going on with vehicles these days, especially with all the crazy electronic gimmicks and doo-dads. We're equally shocked at the prices and reliability issues as well. As to the RDX, I've only recently learned about the "rodent candy" wiring on many Hondas/Acuras and other makes. It's truly a minefield out there these days with car buying, so we're really trying to do our homework. As things stand right now, we may just get a Nissan Frontier for our daily driver.


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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: tony1679] #5058465 03/30/19 08:32 AM
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Fancy vehicles have glitter N glam interiors with very complex A/C and radio controls.

The more complex and confusing..... the more some buyers are impressed with high tech interior.

Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: tony1679] #5058485 03/30/19 08:59 AM
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Here's the thing about all of the tech features. Car Mfg's put in 100 features for customer to use, not knowing who is going to use what features. I want 4-5 things, my wife wants her 4-5 thing to use and others still, want their 3-4 or 5 features to use. So, there are waaaaaaay more features & actions in order to use in these systems than should be needed while driving.

What I tell folks is to figure out what 3,4 or 5 features you want and get acclimated with those features so it makes driving easier. Now when a car company make you use the info screen to program or simply adjust the 20 way power seats, or to adjust HVAC(screen after screen after screen) from a convoluted menu, now that's messed up.

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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: tcp71] #5058493 03/30/19 09:04 AM
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The new automotive trend is to treat their customers as beta testers. I'm not against technology, but I do hate it when it is implemented sloppily and irritates the driver, especially from brands that are supposed to be about luxury.


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There are plenty of basic vehicles around to chose from. You drove a loaded up SUV from Honda's luxury division...what did you expect?
Chose a lower trim CRV or Pilot and you'll feel right at home.




Well, at the very least I would expect a refined transmission and not being annoyed at various warnings telling me I'm driving wrong. Should't the luxury model impress instead of disappoint over the cheaper model?

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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: tony1679] #5058592 03/30/19 11:19 AM
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I don't think any lower-trim human will ever be happy with an upper-trim anything.


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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: gathermewool] #5058620 03/30/19 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by gathermewool
I don't think any lower-trim human will ever be happy with an upper-trim anything.


And vice versa.

I love push button start. What is there to hate about it? Never drove a vehicle with DI engine but what is there to hate about that? Reliability might be a long term issue but that's to be determined.

New cars have a learning curve we didn't have before. Takes a little while to learn to change the radio station and HVAC controls.

The majority of the buying public likes the electronics. Learn to embrace it or you'll be low level trim or unhappy the rest of your life. Or driving a crown vic.


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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: Leo99] #5058660 03/30/19 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gathermewool
I don't think any lower-trim human will ever be happy with an upper-trim anything.
For some people, I agree. I'm not one of those. This RDX just missed the mark on many levels, and plenty of reviews confirm I'm not wrong for hating the 10-speed.
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The majority of the buying public likes the electronics. Learn to embrace it or you'll be low level trim or unhappy the rest of your life. Or driving a crown vic.
I think I'll embrace the latter and be unhappy. Looking for a Vic sport next wink.

Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: tony1679] #5058673 03/30/19 01:18 PM
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There is a break in procedure or the 10 speed that smooths things out.


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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: Char Baby] #5058721 03/30/19 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Char Baby

I do understand having all of the SAFETY features aboard in vehicles today as they're becoming mandatory.


I'm of the cynical opinion that more safety features create worse drivers. It breeds false confidence. Why bother paying attention when the car will do it for you?


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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: SnowDrifter] #5058728 03/30/19 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowDrifter
Originally Posted by Char Baby

I do understand having all of the SAFETY features aboard in vehicles today as they're becoming mandatory.


I'm of the cynical opinion that more safety features create worse drivers. It breeds false confidence. Why bother paying attention when the car will do it for you?


Obviously the status quo can be improved and through technology. And eventually cars will drive themselves so no need for a long term initiative to improve drivers. Easier and more effective to improve the cars themselves.


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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: SnowDrifter] #5058742 03/30/19 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowDrifter
Originally Posted by Char Baby

I do understand having all of the SAFETY features aboard in vehicles today as they're becoming mandatory.


I'm of the cynical opinion that more safety features create worse drivers. It breeds false confidence. Why bother paying attention when the car will do it for you?


I understand your cynicism and agree to a point that as cars have “improved” over the decades, the skills have diminished. Mostly because cars back then required much more attention from the driver just to roll down the street let alone taking an evasive maneuver. One of the things that has changed that we can all agree on is how much more distracted many drivers on the road are these days. Technology has a lot of blame here but in the end, each of us has the responsibility to drive safely. I know, tell that to the (pick a gender) texting while driving. Which brings me to my point; as much as we would love to bring instant justice to these dangerous drivers we see on the road, we can’t (shouldn’t). Until that day when they learn and sometimes sadly, won’t, I’ll want the mandatory nannies to be there and activate before they run into any of mine ot yours.


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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: SnowDrifter] #5059079 03/30/19 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowDrifter
I'm of the cynical opinion that more safety features create worse drivers. It breeds false confidence. Why bother paying attention when the car will do it for you?
This x100000000000000000000000000

Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: tony1679] #5059080 03/30/19 10:14 PM
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Glitched post, sorry.

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Re: Loaner - 2019 Acura RDX - My thoughts [Re: tony1679] #5059136 03/31/19 12:02 AM
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I love turbo, DI I am neutral on, but it does make for more efficiency. I am a fan of "smart" cars because people aren't.

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