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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: cdlamb] #5058334 03/30/19 06:57 AM
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The results on this oil came back from Blackstone as well.
Some of the additive pack numbers look better, but they didn't find any fuel dilution.

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AGAT                                                              Blackstone                 AGAT./ PP 5W-30 Baseline

Aluminum      3                                                   3                                      0
Chromium      1                                                   1                                      0
Copper        8                                                   7                                      0
Iron         10                                                  12                                      0
Tin           0                                                   1                                      0
Lead          1                                                   0                                      0
Silicon       6                                                   6                                      4
Molybdenum   60                                                  73                                     83
Nickel        0                                                   0                                      0
Silver        0                                                   0                                      0
Potassium     1                                                   1                                      0
Sodium        5                                                   3                                      0
Boron       130 (Lower Reportable)                              136                                    224
Barium        0                                                   0                                      0
Calcium     700                                                 883                                   1033
Magnesium   577                                                 598                                    631
Manganese     1                                                   1                                      0
Phosphorous 466                                                 547                                    604
Zinc        472                                                 607                                      732

Visc 40C      47.5                                             54.2                                   53.5
Visc 100C      9.0                                              8.55                                   9.55
Visc Index   174                                              133                                    163
Fuel %         3.0 (Lower Reportable)                          <0.5
Flashpoint                                                      400

Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: cdlamb] #5063371 04/03/19 05:56 PM
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Blackstone should not even have a line item on their report for fuel dilution, since they don’t really measure (with gas chromatography).

I wonder, assuming you are inclined to continue with Pennzoil, if bumping up to Ultra Platinum, or maybe a euro spec Platinum, would help. It won’t cure your fuel dilution, but it might mask it by starting with a higher viscosity, and/or having a better add pack. I would love to hear Pennzoil’s reply to this “advice / opinion,” because maybe I am full of cak, but an important question for them is if it would endanger your Pennzoil “warranty.” I am concerned with similar problems in my EB; I will miss your reports (since you are going “annual”). I’m probably going to say goodbye to Pennzoil though, or at least the ILSAC SN+ version of Platinum. I recently filled with Ultra, and if that produces a better UOA, I have another jug I can use for the next fill. Euro Platinum A3/B4 potentially sounds even better, assuming I can get the “regular SAPS” version here. I won’t need a change until mid or late summer though.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: cdlamb] #5063381 04/03/19 06:11 PM
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Did someone say Pennzoil? Here a few simple comparisons. Threw in a few another Shell owned products from a previous post.



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If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: Snagglefoot] #5063657 04/04/19 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
Did someone say Pennzoil? Here a few simple comparisons. Threw in a few another Shell owned products from a previous post.




Do you have the results for pre-SN+ Ultra Plat...say 2017 version? I thought it had >2000 calcium.

Also, is there good reason to believe the QSUD or Rotella mult-vehicle would not shear more (or dilute more) than the Pennzoil brands? I actually hope so. I had dilution-related viscosity drop over 1 (9.6 to 8.3) with Platinum, and want to compensate for that. Starting out with higher starting viscosity is what I mean by “compensate.” I don’t remember where I saw it, but I seem to recall some QSUD started out high, but sheared to just as low a final viscosity as my Platinum in someone’s UOA.

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: cdlamb] #5063660 04/04/19 01:02 AM
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Hmmm, didn’t mean to leave out the RGT, which also starts out with higher viscosity. Can’t go back and edit, missed the cut-off.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: Impatient] #5065790 04/06/19 02:51 AM
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https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...mber/10374/filename/VOA%20PUP%205w30.pdf

From Lawnguy on another thread (PUP voa’s). That thread had the new PUP, as Snaggle provided above, here is the old PUP for comparison.

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: CT8] #5129552 06/09/19 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CT8
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Some of those numbers look awfully low.

Short oil change interval.


I meant the additives


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