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Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost #5054856 03/26/19 04:37 PM
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I recently sent another oil analysis in on my 2018 F150 with 3.5 EcoBoost.

I have switched to Pennzoil Platinum Full Synthetic, & this sample is from the 2nd oil change after switching brands. Decided to go with an oil recommended for Turbocharged engines, Dexos 1 Gen 2 oil.

Happy to see that my fuel dilution is lower than some of the previous samples, with the cold weather we were getting in February, & increased idle/ warm up times. I also sent in a new Virgin oil sample for the Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30.
I sent another duplicate sample from this oil change to Blackstone labs for comparison, to see if they are able to pickup any fuel dilution.

5350 km on oil change, 27866 kilometers on engine

Code
Aluminum      3
Chromium      1
Copper        8
Iron         10
Tin           0
Lead          1
Silicon       6
Molybdenum   60
Nickel        0
Silver        0
Potassium     1
Sodium        5
Boron       130 (Lower Reportable)
Barium        0
Calcium     700
Magnesium   577
Manganese     1
Phosphorous 466
Zinc        472

Visc 40C      47.5
Visc 100C      9.0 
Visc Index   174
Fuel %         3.0 (Lower Reportable) 

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: cdlamb] #5054893 03/26/19 05:14 PM
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Some of those numbers look awfully low.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: cdlamb] #5054905 03/26/19 05:29 PM
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calcium looks low
and we all know that builds strong bones LOL


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: cdlamb] #5054926 03/26/19 05:56 PM
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Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 is a little on the thin side for my liking.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: ZZman] #5055040 03/26/19 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ZZman
Some of those numbers look awfully low.

Short oil change interval.

Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: cdlamb] #5055062 03/26/19 08:09 PM
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Something is up with the Zinc and Phosphorous. Maybe a slight lab error or out of spec jug. Your wear results are great, however.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: CT8] #5055289 03/27/19 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CT8
Originally Posted by ZZman
Some of those numbers look awfully low.

Short oil change interval.


4 OCIs in the equivilant of 17k miles .... the "longest" being 3300 miles .... with syns no less .... (insert sigh here)


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: cdlamb] #5055384 03/27/19 08:12 AM
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Another so-so report for Pennzoil with low mileage.

Metals look fine considering the engine is still fairly new.

Fuel dilution for the winter temperatures up here and our terrible fuel we have during the winter makes sense.
I'm seeing similar numbers in port injected / direct injected vehicles I maintain over the same amount of miles.

You might want to take your personal details off the reports.

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: StevieC] #5055404 03/27/19 08:39 AM
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what exactly is "so-so" about the report?

Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: MParr] #5055431 03/27/19 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MParr
Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 is a little on the thin side for my liking.


Not for the OP and his latitude

Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: parshisa] #5055489 03/27/19 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by parshisa
what exactly is "so-so" about the report?

In 5,000km (3,000 miles) it has used 1/3 of the calcium, Molly dropped by 1/4, Boron is almost 1/2, and Zinc is almost 1/2 and it dropped 0.8cst as well.

That doesn't bode well for vehicles with OLM's that push those OCI's a lot further. Fine in this OCI for the OP but I wouldn't want to run it out to say an FCA OLM of up to 16,000km (10K miles). no-no

IMO another oil would be better suited for much longer runs in this engine and it seems to add to the pattern of PP UOA's in large part I have looked at here where they are fine for lower OCI's but not longer ones.
Their add-pack is WEAK IMO for the longer haul OCI's in a lot of applications (not all).


Last edited by StevieC; 03/27/19 10:13 AM.

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: StevieC] #5055494 03/27/19 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by parshisa
what exactly is "so-so" about the report?

In 5,000km (3,000 miles) it has used 1/3 of the calcium, Molly dropped by 1/4, Boron is almost 1/2, and Zinc is almost 1/2.
That doesn't bode well for vehicles with OLM's that push those OCI's a lot further. Fine in this OCI for the OP but I wouldn't want to run it out to say an FCA OLM of up to 16,000km (10K miles). no-no

IMO another oil would be better suited for much longer runs in this engine and it seems to add to the pattern of PP UOA's in large part I have looked at here where they are fine for lower OCI's but not longer ones.
Their add-pack is WEAK IMO for the longer haul OCI's in a lot of applications (not all).


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: cdlamb] #5055501 03/27/19 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by StevieC
In 5,000km (3,000 miles) it has used 1/3 of the calcium, Molly dropped by 1/4, Boron is almost 1/2, and Zinc is almost 1/2 and it dropped 0.8cst as well.

Somebody who knows more about how that works should explain how elements get "used" up during an OCI and disappear from the analysis.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: kschachn] #5055512 03/27/19 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by StevieC
In 5,000km (3,000 miles) it has used 1/3 of the calcium, Molly dropped by 1/4, Boron is almost 1/2, and Zinc is almost 1/2 and it dropped 0.8cst as well.

Somebody who knows more about how that works should explain how additives get "used" up during an OCI and disappear from the analysis.

I'm not saying they shouldn't get used up, it's the low rate of mileage and the rate they were used up that is the issue when compared to other oils.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 5350 km F150 3.5 EcoBoost [Re: StevieC] #5055517 03/27/19 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by StevieC
I'm not saying they shouldn't get used up, it's the low rate of mileage and the rate they were used up that is the issue when compared to other oils.

Well what I meant is that I don't understand how the metallic elements disappear from the oil. I do understand that some of them such as the zinc compounds might get "plated" onto the surfaces of the engine, but all of them? Even if the chemical compounds are somehow used up/degraded and are rendered ineffective, the metallic atoms would still show up at the same level in the ICP analysis.

For example, where is the calcium going? Even if the engine was burning or leaking oil the relative concentration in PPM would remain constant.


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