Originally Posted by billt460
Originally Posted by CKN
That's really a silly statement. The things is-the exact same statements were made about ABS-"What if it fails or doesn't work properly?".I'm sure maybe there are failures of ANY SYSTEM. But it's a percentage with many zeros behind the decimal point.
ABS can fail and your brakes will still work. A car can fail to start for a multitude of different reasons. It's not, "techno phobia". It's reality. And it doesn't have to fail to start either. Just hesitate, and or start hard. Happens all the time. Yes, even in these brand new, computerized wonder mobiles.
You see cars every day that require cranking for several seconds before they start. Especially in very hot weather. These things require an engine to start dozens of times. Perhaps hundreds in a single trip any distance in heavy traffic. With the A/C, and God knows what else running full tilt. Now, all of a sudden, you're going to tell me it has become a total mathematical improbability, that in one of those hundreds or thousands of times, that the engine doesn't fire off in the first Nano second it's supposed to? And instead cranks for several seconds before the engine starts, and the car moves. And how many people are going to change their driving habits because of these things? Most won't until they get into a wreck with one.
All these things have to do, is what they've already done. And that is make people uncomfortable driving them. Nothing else matters. People are not going to be so thrilled to pay $50K+ for a vehicle with one of these mechanical abortions in it, so they can have sweaty hands making left turns with it in heavy traffic. Regardless of how many zeros you want to put after the decimal point. All in some silly attempt to convince them how fantastically dependable it is, at saving them 15 cents worth of gas driving to Wal-Mart.
The result is what you are already seeing in this thread...... They hate them, pure and simple. You can carry on all you want about how wonderful these things are. The fact remains there is already a very successful market for devices that override them. They're selling like hotcakes because people who are stuck with vehicles that have these things, despise them. How many modules do you see being manufactured to override ABS systems, or seat belt alarms?
https://www.smartstopstart.com/
What's silly is not only the way these manufacturers are trying to come up with these idiotic ways to over complicate things. All in some Rube Goldberg attempt to try and save a few cents worth of gas. But how the consumer market is buying into it hook, line, and sinker. Only because it's being shoved down their throat. As if it's supposed to taste better that way.
It's painfully obvious that your are unaware of how these systems are designed to operate and instead rely on hyperbole/pie-in-the-sky situations which will never materialize.
There's one type of driver which will never like start-stop and it's the individual who drives like he's trying to catch a fire, an individual who will dart out into the smallest space in traffic in order to arrive at his destination a whole 60 seconds sooner.
