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Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044394
03/15/19 08:14 PM
03/15/19 08:14 PM
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Let's add a qualifier: for those of you who hate it, have you ever driven a vehicle with this feature for more than 5k miles?

I have not for that long; therefore, I don't feel I can give a valid opinion...


'14 Forester XT FA20DIT (Cobb Stage 1)
Edge 0W-40 + FU filter (64,774 miles)
'15 Legacy FB25 (OEM Stage, uh, neg. 7?)
Edge 0W-20 + FU filter (40,803 miles)
Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044431
03/15/19 08:43 PM
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After 15,000 miles... it's a resounding love it. So much that I wish my truck had it too. After a day or two, it just fades into the routine of driving.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/do-stop-start-systems-really-save-fuel.html

Ask yourself this: What would get you to buy fuel at $3.30/gallon vs. $3.00/gallon. That's the same 10% savings start/stop gets you in city driving. I just find it hilarious that people will use Gas Buddy and drive out of their way to save a couple pennies per gallon, but hate on a system that does the same thing (more actually) with no effort at all.

Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: gathermewool] #5044439
03/15/19 08:53 PM
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I've driven my wife's '16 Grand Cherokee a lot over the past 27 months; could easily be 5,000 miles.
I disable it at each ignition cycle. Pretty much used to it now but once in awhile I forget and can't stand when it shuts down even though it's not too noticeable.

I would NEVER buy a vehicle that does not allow disabling.


2006 Jeep GC 4.7L, Died @ 153059 mi frown
2008 Xterra 4.0L, 104500 mi
2016 Jeep GC 3.6L, 19100 mi
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Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044453
03/15/19 09:12 PM
03/15/19 09:12 PM
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West Michigan
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I despise the auto stop/start in our 2018 F150. Not sure how much it saves on the EPA track but many owners have reported no MPG loss when switching off. Myself, I see it as nothing more than a liability. How much sooner will the battery or starter require replacement? What are all those stop/run cycles doing for engine wear? What if it doesn't start when I need it to? Does the extra stress it puts on the battery reflect in shorter alternator life?

If there was a clear, or better yet significant, MPG benefit we could talk... but there isn't.


2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop
Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044479
03/15/19 09:43 PM
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ON, Canada eh?
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ON, Canada eh?
I'm not opposed to the technology but I have a preference for it being turned off.


'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - 25k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w20

Fear 20wt oils if you want your engine to last. smirk2
Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044494
03/15/19 10:01 PM
03/15/19 10:01 PM
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Coming up on two years and 57k with it.

Hated it at first... but I bought in May when it was hot.
Shut it off every start.
Winter came, left it alone and used it a little more.

Getting to where I just leave it alone and control it by brake pressure or let it shut down.
Summers coming so time will tell what do this year.

Its just not big a deal.

Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044538
03/15/19 10:47 PM
03/15/19 10:47 PM
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Redondo Beach, California.
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Dislike it in the work F150's and the poster can cross Ford off of his list because there is no disable button on the F150.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044540
03/15/19 10:49 PM
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I had it in a rental Mercedes and absolutely despised it. We also had it in a rental Durango and quickly disabled it.


2019 RAM 1500 Sport - Mobil 1 EP 0w-20, FRAM Ultra
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Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044553
03/15/19 11:06 PM
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Redondo Beach, California.
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Also whomever states it increases fuel economy by 10% should hire me as their financial adviser and give me complete power of attorney. I will not leave them broke but I will charge fee of about 88% of gains.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044569
03/15/19 11:32 PM
03/15/19 11:32 PM
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I can't say I hate it, but I don't like the idea of extra wear and tear for saving pennies on fuel.


2012 Honda Accord EX-L K24z3
56,xxx miles
PPPP 0w20 / Fram Ultra

2014 VW Jetta SE 1.8T ea888
44,xxx miles
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Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044571
03/15/19 11:37 PM
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Michigan
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My Nox has it...hate it.

Try to be light on the brake pedal so it doesn’t go off.....


2019 Chevrolet Equinox LS
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LS
Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: gregk24] #5044578
03/15/19 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gregk24
I can't say I hate it, but I don't like the idea of extra wear and tear for saving pennies on fuel.


Starters seem to last longer than usual these days. They started showing up in some Mercedes models in 2014. The main drawback seems to be that the aux battery which the start/stop system needs tends to die after 3-4 years so there's no real extra wear and tear, mostly just the cost of replacing the battery early. I think the math might be about a savings of about $100 in fuel economy if you compare the 2013 vs the 2014. So $400 over 4 years plus the additional cost of $100 for a battery. A few hundred dollars saving, maybe 1k over 10 years, not worth the hassle I guess.

Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: StevieC] #5044600
03/16/19 01:29 AM
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I all so think that It gonna be a problem down the road with this system !!! Hate it,

Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: rocky8314] #5044611
03/16/19 03:19 AM
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It's the future, no use fighting it. Soon we'll be all EV, so buy a big American V8 and enjoy it while you can!


2018 Challenger SRT 392 PUP 0w-40 Wix 57899XP
2018 GTI
Re: Auto Stop Start [Re: dishdude] #5044621
03/16/19 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dishdude
It's the future, no use fighting it. Soon we'll be all EV, so buy a big American V8 and enjoy it while you can!


Except they’re putting them on the big American v8’s now!


2016 Chrysler 300S v6
2018 Dodge Grand Caravan GT

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