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Allison Clutch Test - What is it? #5044414
03/15/19 08:29 PM
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I am attaching the two relevant pages from the Allison DOC User Manual about the Clutch Test. I do not understand what the purpose of the test is. I believe it tests the torque converter clutch. How does this test accomplish that?

Allison 1.jpgallison 2.jpg

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Re: Allison Clutch Test - What is it? [Re: George7941] #5044454
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Allows you to test Clutch Holding ability & Solenoid combination/Shift Valve functionality. Selecting higher than normal commanded ratios allow easier diagnosis of slipping components.

Last edited by clinebarger; 03/15/19 09:13 PM.

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Re: Allison Clutch Test - What is it? [Re: clinebarger] #5044506
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Originally Posted by clinebarger
Allows you to test Clutch Holding ability & Solenoid combination/Shift Valve functionality. Selecting higher than normal commanded ratios allow easier diagnosis of slipping components.


That's about it! Tip-tronic with a little more control, basically.


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Re: Allison Clutch Test - What is it? [Re: George7941] #5044592
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So how would I actually test for a slipping TCC? Drive along at a steady 40mph, select 5th (Drive) in the Clutch Test Mode and then see if the engine flares up if I step on the throttle? The Engine and Turbine speeds are displayed on Allison DOC, so I could watch that to see if the clutch is slipping. Is there another better way?


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Re: Allison Clutch Test - What is it? [Re: George7941] #5045307
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I'm not familiar with commercial Non-GM Allison applications, In a GM application....There is a TCC Slip RPM data PID that tells you everything you need to know. It basically takes the Turbine speed & Engine speed & displays the differential.

Do you have TCC Slip code/s in the TCM?


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Re: Allison Clutch Test - What is it? [Re: clinebarger] #5046512
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Thanks for your help, clinebarger. I have very little experience with automatic transmissions, so any help is most welcome.

The subject truck is a 2006 Freightliner M2 with an Allison 2100 HS tranny. There is no TCC slip pid in the data stream. There is engine speed, turbine speed and output speed pids. Yesterday I graphed engine speed and turbine speed while driving along a 20mph with the clutch test enabled for 2nd gear and the variation with the two speeds while I stepped on the throttle indicates that the TCC was not applied.

The TCC solenoid passes the solenoid test in Allison DOC.

I don't think there are any codes in the TCM but I will check again.

Truck is not giving any issues but I was just curious as to whether the TCC was working as it should.


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