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GPF - Gasoline particle filter? #5041571
03/13/19 12:16 PM
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BiH, Europe
BobGoblin Offline OP
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Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: BobGoblin] #5041587
03/13/19 12:32 PM
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VW already equips their cars with OPF's


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Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: UG_Passat] #5041604
03/13/19 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by UG_Passat
VW already equips their cars with OPF's

Heard that too. I'm guessing since GDI does produce more particulate matter and Euro VI/VII might have tighter limits on PM2.5 emissions.

Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: BobGoblin] #5041618
03/13/19 01:09 PM
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ON, Canada eh?
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Yet we allow the ships running across the ocean from heavily polluting factories in China/India a free pass. mad

Last edited by StevieC; 03/13/19 01:10 PM.

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Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: StevieC] #5041710
03/13/19 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by StevieC
Yet we allow the ships running across the ocean from heavily polluting factories in China/India a free pass. mad


Actually...

Coming Changes in Marine Fuel...

An excerpt:

The International Maritime Organization (IMO), the 171-member state United Nations agency that sets standards for shipping, is set to reduce the maximum amount of sulfur content (by percent weight) in marine fuels used on the open seas from 3.5% to 0.5% by 2020. These regulations are intended to reduce sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, and other pollutants from global ship exhaust.

The 2020 reduction in sulfur limits follows a series of similar reductions in marine fuel sulfur limits, such as those that reduced sulfur content of marine fuels in IMO-designated Emission Control Areas from 1.0% to 0.1% in 2015. Other areas around ports in Europe and parts of China have adopted similar sulfur restrictions.

Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: BobGoblin] #5041732
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When I took a cruise, you could see the trail of orange behind the ship when at sea. Going up the Mississippi to NO, there was no smoke, because they had switched to clean fuel.

Rod

Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: MNgopher] #5041753
03/13/19 03:14 PM
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ON, Canada eh?
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Originally Posted by MNgopher
Originally Posted by StevieC
Yet we allow the ships running across the ocean from heavily polluting factories in China/India a free pass. mad


Actually...

Coming Changes in Marine Fuel...

An excerpt:

The International Maritime Organization (IMO), the 171-member state United Nations agency that sets standards for shipping, is set to reduce the maximum amount of sulfur content (by percent weight) in marine fuels used on the open seas from 3.5% to 0.5% by 2020. These regulations are intended to reduce sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, and other pollutants from global ship exhaust.

The 2020 reduction in sulfur limits follows a series of similar reductions in marine fuel sulfur limits, such as those that reduced sulfur content of marine fuels in IMO-designated Emission Control Areas from 1.0% to 0.1% in 2015. Other areas around ports in Europe and parts of China have adopted similar sulfur restrictions.

Still though it's the amount of ships running across the ocean to begin with and the factories belching out their junk. It's great they are making changes but it's like a drop in the ocean in comparison while we get bent over continually. Cars are virtually clean once the catalysts are up to temperature.

Last edited by StevieC; 03/13/19 03:14 PM.

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Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: BobGoblin] #5041770
03/13/19 03:28 PM
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I always wondered why we couldnt just put huge catalysts in the stacks of the ships, considering how many ships that are out there, I guess money would be the answer.


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Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: BobGoblin] #5041817
03/13/19 04:43 PM
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I have a source and have known for some time gasoline vehicles will eventually have a gasoline particulate filter or GPF.
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/4725980


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Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: skyactiv] #5041932
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it is because of direct injection, they are now standard equipment

https://newsroom.porsche.com/fallba...rtin-werner-christophorus-388-16349.html

Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: skyactiv] #5042324
03/14/19 06:39 AM
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Atlanta,GA
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Originally Posted by skyactiv
I have a source and have known for some time gasoline vehicles will eventually have a gasoline particulate filter or GPF.
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/4725980



Yep. 2.5 PM increased significantly with the introduction of DI. This has been known going back to at least 2009 but the regulations being what they are took years to catch up.


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Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: StevieC] #5042329
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Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by MNgopher
Originally Posted by StevieC
Yet we allow the ships running across the ocean from heavily polluting factories in China/India a free pass. mad


Actually...

Coming Changes in Marine Fuel...

An excerpt:

The International Maritime Organization (IMO), the 171-member state United Nations agency that sets standards for shipping, is set to reduce the maximum amount of sulfur content (by percent weight) in marine fuels used on the open seas from 3.5% to 0.5% by 2020. These regulations are intended to reduce sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, and other pollutants from global ship exhaust.

The 2020 reduction in sulfur limits follows a series of similar reductions in marine fuel sulfur limits, such as those that reduced sulfur content of marine fuels in IMO-designated Emission Control Areas from 1.0% to 0.1% in 2015. Other areas around ports in Europe and parts of China have adopted similar sulfur restrictions.

Still though it's the amount of ships running across the ocean to begin with and the factories belching out their junk. It's great they are making changes but it's like a drop in the ocean in comparison while we get bent over continually. Cars are virtually clean once the catalysts are up to temperature.



Emissions from ships is quickly diluted. Emissions from vehicles not so much. They tend to stay around and concentrate. Some cities such as Los Angeles became so bad that people were dying/suffering from respiratory related issues.

https://timeline.com/la-smog-pollution-4ca4bc0cc95d


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Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: BobGoblin] #5042403
03/14/19 08:04 AM
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Gas engines, before GDI, were doing so good. You knew it was only a matter of time before they were screwed up like diesels.


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Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #5042840
03/14/19 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Emissions from ships is quickly diluted. Emissions from vehicles not so much. They tend to stay around and concentrate. Some cities such as Los Angeles became so bad that people were dying/suffering from respiratory related issues.

https://timeline.com/la-smog-pollution-4ca4bc0cc95d


I think that has to do with NOx emissions which is heavily curbed on vehicles today and can show up in other engines depending on the conditions.


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Re: GPF - Gasoline particle filter? [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #5043272
03/14/19 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Emissions from ships is quickly diluted. Emissions from vehicles not so much. They tend to stay around and concentrate. Some cities such as Los Angeles became so bad that people were dying/suffering from respiratory related issues.

That's quite true, but we also have to remember that vehicle density matters similarly. L.A. has always been the canary in the coal mine, as it were. In this province, you could have darned near everyone running a 1970s generation diesel and have little effect. Try that in L.A., and I'd shudder to see the result.


Plain, simple Garak.

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