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Re: 9mm choices [Re: Huie83] #5036451 03/08/19 05:33 PM
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The concept is neat, but in practice it doesn't make sense. The conversion parts are expensive and their availability is poor.

Unless you live in a jurisdiction that prohibits you from owning multiple guns, you might as well just buy a completely separate firearm.


I guess I'd rather drop $349 on a P320 compact conversion kit than $550 on a whole new firearm. I guess unless you just wanted another handgun for some reason. From what I can tell the kits are in stock on their website and can be shipped right to your door. Have you found otherwise? I'm seriously asking because like the OP, I like them and have been toying with the idea of getting one.

That makes no sense. Add in the cost of the extra mag or two you get with the complete gun and you're within $125-160 or so of an entire gun.


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Re: 9mm choices [Re: Eosyn] #5036856 03/09/19 12:56 AM
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Re: 9mm choices [Re: Eosyn] #5036959 03/09/19 06:15 AM
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You are worried about a safe gun... The Sig P320 has shot about 5 people just from being dropped. The gun lacks a internal trigger safety (likes the Glock has) and has a lightweight pull, which is a recipe for accidental discharges. There are several lawsuits out there.

And you never said what you wanted the pistol for? What is its purpose? You need a purpose before you can decide what you want/need.

If it's for home defense/target shooting, I would strongly look at these pistols, in this order...

Walther PPQ M2
Smith Wesson M&P9 2.0
Glock model 45 9mm (not 17)


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Re: 9mm choices [Re: Eosyn] #5036967 03/09/19 06:35 AM
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The Glock is GENIOUS in its design. You can completely strip every part out of it, and completely rebuild it with all new springs, without any special tools, in less than 3 minutes. This is a HUGE factor for me, because I can keep any Glock running for practically forever without the need to send it somewhere for repair. If anything breaks, it easy to diagnose, cheap to fix, and extremely easy to fix, all by myself, in minutes.

You'll find that a vast majority of true professionals carry and use Glock for many many good reasons.


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Re: 9mm choices [Re: Eosyn] #5036979 03/09/19 07:06 AM
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I don't see Smith Wesson MP pistols in your list. I actually prefer the Smith Wesson over a Glock. I really like the 3rd Gen Smith's the best and the Berettas are a close second.
I like how the safety's deactivate the trigger.
I am not comfortable with carrying a Glock in a concealed state. In a holster on my side - fine.
Still picking a gun is like picking a girlfriend. It's really what you like.



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Re: 9mm choices [Re: bubbatime] #5037115 03/09/19 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bubbatime
You are worried about a safe gun... The Sig P320 has shot about 5 people just from being dropped. The gun lacks a internal trigger safety (likes the Glock has) and has a lightweight pull, which is a recipe for accidental discharges. There are several lawsuits out there.

And you never said what you wanted the pistol for? What is its purpose? You need a purpose before you can decide what you want/need.

If it's for home defense/target shooting, I would strongly look at these pistols, in this order...

Walther PPQ M2
Smith Wesson M&P9 2.0
Glock model 45 9mm (not 17)


Rut-Roh Raggy! That is a serious safety flaw of the sig. Thanks for bringing that up, I need to research that. Also thanks for your suggestions, will look into those guns. Yes, purpose is for target shooting and home defense. Back to research for me!

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I own a few of the guns on your list, including the P320.

And how do you like the P320 in regards to the others on my list? likes, dislikes?

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I don't see Smith Wesson MP pistols in your list. I actually prefer the Smith Wesson over a Glock. I really like the 3rd Gen Smith's the best and the Berettas are a close second.
I like how the safety's deactivate the trigger.
I am not comfortable with carrying a Glock in a concealed state. In a holster on my side - fine.
Still picking a gun is like picking a girlfriend. It's really what you like.

I couldn't agree more with your last statement.

One of the surprise safety on my SR22 that I really like after owning the gun is the magazine disconnect feature. When the magazine is not in the gun, it will not fire even when there's a round in the chamber. Love that feature.

Thank you all for your opinions and posts. Especially ones reminding me about gun safety rules. I will stay vigilant and practice care with firearms. Enjoy your "toys" and keep the 2A fire burning!


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Re: 9mm choices [Re: hatt] #5037343 03/09/19 01:51 PM
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The concept is neat, but in practice it doesn't make sense. The conversion parts are expensive and their availability is poor.

Unless you live in a jurisdiction that prohibits you from owning multiple guns, you might as well just buy a completely separate firearm.


I guess I'd rather drop $349 on a P320 compact conversion kit than $550 on a whole new firearm. I guess unless you just wanted another handgun for some reason. From what I can tell the kits are in stock on their website and can be shipped right to your door. Have you found otherwise? I'm seriously asking because like the OP, I like them and have been toying with the idea of getting one.

That makes no sense. Add in the cost of the extra mag or two you get with the complete gun and you're within $125-160 or so of an entire gun.



The kits come with mags as well, the only thing they don't have is the trigger group.

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Originally Posted by incognito_2u
........you’ve heard of “measure twice, cut once”? Well “check twice, pull once”!


I like that!

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That’s a good deal on that gun. And if you’re willing to go with a .40, you can find them for $299 brand-new.


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Re: 9mm choices [Re: Eosyn] #5037800 03/09/19 08:57 PM
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A friend of mine has a Sig p365. That gun really fits my small hands. I'm going to shoot it at some point. If it shoots as good as it feels in my hand, i'm going to get one.


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Re: 9mm choices [Re: Huie83] #5037899 03/09/19 11:13 PM
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The concept is neat, but in practice it doesn't make sense. The conversion parts are expensive and their availability is poor.

Unless you live in a jurisdiction that prohibits you from owning multiple guns, you might as well just buy a completely separate firearm.


I guess I'd rather drop $349 on a P320 compact conversion kit than $550 on a whole new firearm. I guess unless you just wanted another handgun for some reason. From what I can tell the kits are in stock on their website and can be shipped right to your door. Have you found otherwise? I'm seriously asking because like the OP, I like them and have been toying with the idea of getting one.

That makes no sense. Add in the cost of the extra mag or two you get with the complete gun and you're within $125-160 or so of an entire gun.



The kits come with mags as well, the only thing they don't have is the trigger group.


Awesome. Question. The kit you are talking about that costs hundreds, is that for changing the caliber or just the frame size? To change the size of the frame, you use the same trigger chassis, slide, barrel and spring right?


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In response to Bubbatimes' comment about the P320 discharging when dropped, I researched it further and found this video. What really got on my nerve, from the video, is that Sig doesn't even have a mandatory recall out on the firearm but only a "voluntary" upgrade. That, to me, is poor customer service and because of that, Sig is now off my list.

Thank you Bubbatime for bringing that very important safety flaw to the light and saving me from a purchase I would have regretted. One of the many reasons why I love this community!
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Sig also uses Indian parts on the P320. puke


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Re: 9mm choices [Re: Huie83] #5038070 03/10/19 08:46 AM
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The concept is neat, but in practice it doesn't make sense. The conversion parts are expensive and their availability is poor.

Unless you live in a jurisdiction that prohibits you from owning multiple guns, you might as well just buy a completely separate firearm.


I guess I'd rather drop $349 on a P320 compact conversion kit than $550 on a whole new firearm. I guess unless you just wanted another handgun for some reason. From what I can tell the kits are in stock on their website and can be shipped right to your door. Have you found otherwise? I'm seriously asking because like the OP, I like them and have been toying with the idea of getting one.

That makes no sense. Add in the cost of the extra mag or two you get with the complete gun and you're within $125-160 or so of an entire gun.



The kits come with mags as well, the only thing they don't have is the trigger group.

Looks like they come with one mag. Put $150 with it and have two guns.


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