TC-W3 Oil add to fuel in vehicle

[StevieC]

Those of you using TC-W3 in your regular fuel fills at 640:1, I wanted to know if you add it after filling the tank of fuel (exact amount of oil added) or add the oil before filling the tank (estimated amount)?

I want to experiment with it in an engine in our family of vehicles.

It's been a long time since this was talked about regularly here and I can't remember how members were doing it.

Thanks in advance.

 

[demarpaint]

When I did it I added at the gas station then pumped the gas. I know by the fuel gauge if I need 10 or 15 gallons of fuel. So I'd add either 2 ounces or 3 and pump to a round $ figure ~ 10 or 15 gallons of gas. I might have been a hair over or under on the mix.

 

[StevieC]

Thanks Demarpaint. I figured it was most likely done this way.

 

[Chris142]

I dont see how such a small amount can do anything.

 

[ragtoplvr]

Originally Posted by Chris142
I dont see how such a small amount can do anything.


That is what I thought too. I keep my vehicles long term, so I have ample opportunity to test. Some of my vehicles do not care. Others have a solid 3% to 5% mileage increase. That amount of oil does not cost much. If it is reducing friction that much then there has to be a wear difference too. I have tested several times, it is always worth an extra 20 to 40 miles per tank on the ones that care. I do not know what the mechanism is. I do not know why some engines respond and others don't. I am 100% sure that there can be an effect.

Rod

 

[zorobabel]

I was going to make a thread about TC-W3, but I'll scavenge yours.
TC-W3 was all the rage 7 years ago, what caused the fad to die?

 

[SwampSurvivor]

For some reason I have a few gallons of TC-W3 in my garage that I don't remember buying. I know I can't use it in my air cooled 2 stroke, so I've been using it as a general oil. But I've started adding it to the gas in the pickup to see how it does.

I have 20 years of MPG data for the pickup to work off of.

 

[R_W_M]

I put mine in before pumping the gas so that the gas washes the TC-W3 down the filler pipe and helps mix it into the tank.. I have an Ultragauge in both cars, so I know how much fuel it will take before I pump.

I keep the TC-W3 in an old Stabil bottle . . . makes it easy to measure.

 

[650NutKase]

I add it before. I dont use a measuring device, but I do use an old Lucas UCL bottle that measures about 5 oz. I add it all to my fuel since I usually add close to 25 gallons to my f150 each week (30 gallon tank).

 

[StevieC]

Is everyone using 640:1 on a typical 50:1 TC-W3?

 

[650NutKase]

currently using Pennzoil Premium Plus (16 bucks for 2 gallons, clearance at walmart), but I have used ST (12 bucks a gallon) and Mag 1 black bottle (6 bucks for the gallon on clearance at pepboys). Check clearance racks at your auto parts stores, tcw3, at least in my area, is always being clearanced. I once got a PPP tcw3 quart for 89 cents at O'Rielly's

 

[gathermewool]

I've always been interested in this - subscribed

 

[vw7674]

Pretty sure just driving with a lighter foot explains mpg boost.
Pouring last summer's 40:1 TCW-3 mix into my VW bus fuel tank just tints the valves bluish-green.

 

[ChrisD46]

Originally Posted by StevieC
Is everyone using 640:1 on a typical 50:1 TC-W3?

*There are some online calculators you can use - I ended up going a little less at around 900:1 which was about 2.5 oz. in a 14 gal. tank or 3 oz. to a 18 gal. tank ... In my experience too much TC-W3 hurt my gas mileage plus at around 900:1 ratio if I over did it a little I would still be far away from having added too much . It's something you have to play around with - I've used everything from 640:1 to 1280:1 ratio .

 

[zorobabel]

For those that have used TC-W3 for 7 years, did you have any catalytic converter trouble?

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted by ChrisD46
Originally Posted by StevieC
Is everyone using 640:1 on a typical 50:1 TC-W3?

*There are some online calculators you can use - I ended up going a little less at around 900:1 which was about 2.5 oz. in a 14 gal. tank or 3 oz. to a 18 gal. tank ... In my experience too much TC-W3 hurt my gas mileage plus at around 900:1 ratio if I over did it a little I would still be far away from having added too much . It's something you have to play around with - I've used everything from 640:1 to 1280:1 ratio .


Thanks Chris.

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted by zorobabel
For those that have used TC-W3 for 7 years, did you have any catalytic converter trouble?

I wondered about this as well...

 

[650NutKase]

I've been using it for about 2 years. I did have a cat give out, but it was separated completely. I'm not going to blame that on the tcw3. Other than that, no issues at all.

 

[addyguy]

My favourite gas additive thread, an oldie but a goodie:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/297922/1

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted by addyguy
My favourite gas additive thread, an oldie but a goodie:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/297922/1

When I had my 86 Caravan I used to put a quart of transmission fluid in the gas tank ocassionally and I swear it had an effect on engine performance. This was a not a fuel injected engine and without a Catalytic converter though.

Terry still advises again MMO (and I suspect Transmission fluid) as well as TC-W3 because of soot issues. I suspect with the TC-W3 it's because he assumes folks aren't using the 640:1 ratio but rather something closer to 50:1 but I keep forgetting to ask him in our conversations and really didn't have a need to try it until the project I'm working on.