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Re: 2008 Volvo XC90 3.2 - 7,018 miles on oil - Mobil1 5w30 HM [Re: CEHepp] #5158189
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Originally Posted by CEHepp
I bet you’re fun at parties.

Absolutely

Re: 2008 Volvo XC90 3.2 - 7,018 miles on oil - Mobil1 5w30 HM [Re: CEHepp] #5158378
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To be clear, this is Platinum High Mileage version?

Re: 2008 Volvo XC90 3.2 - 7,018 miles on oil - Mobil1 5w30 HM [Re: CEHepp] #5158472
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Correct, high mileage.

Re: 2008 Volvo XC90 3.2 - 7,018 miles on oil - Mobil1 5w30 HM [Re: CEHepp] #5158486
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For fun, try Platinum high mileage 10w30.

Re: 2008 Volvo XC90 3.2 - 7,018 miles on oil - Mobil1 5w30 HM [Re: CEHepp] #5158552
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This test isn't scientific. You need more data points to show any sort of trend. Not to mention there would be leftover mobil 1 in the engine from the previous run.

It may be a fun bet, but definitely doesn't prove anything.


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Mobil 1 0w20 AFE
ACDelco UPF64R

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Re: 2008 Volvo XC90 3.2 - 7,018 miles on oil - Mobil1 5w30 HM [Re: ChemLabNL] #5158579
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It wasn't intended to be scientific. But it does prove something, it proves that Pennzoil isn't as bad of an oil as he claims. If it were a terrible oil, there would be something clearly off in an oil analysis.

Re: 2008 Volvo XC90 3.2 - 7,018 miles on oil - Mobil1 5w30 HM [Re: CEHepp] #5158733
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Thanks CEHepp! I enjoyed your uoa comparison.


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Re: 2008 Volvo XC90 3.2 - 7,018 miles on oil - Mobil1 5w30 HM [Re: CEHepp] #5158803
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Aside from the difference in cal/mag and moly, pretty unremarkable report... but that's a good thing, right?

Just curious... what brand of air and oil filter are you using? And did you inspect the oil filter between running the M1 and PP HiMi?

Fwiw, your friend, IMO, is high for thinking that PP HiMi was/is in some way inferior. Any interest on your part on running PP HiMi sans the MoS2? I'd be curious to see what if any effect it (the addtl moly) has on wear metals. Other than that, it looks like you have a happy motor..enjoy the ride.. 👍

Re: 2008 Volvo XC90 3.2 - 7,018 miles on oil - Mobil1 5w30 HM [Re: CEHepp] #5158817
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The use of the additives kinda makes this whole comparison null and void. How do you know the additives aren't aiding in lower wear and not the oil itself? The point of direct comparison is to eliminate as many variables as possible.


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Re: 2008 Volvo XC90 3.2 - 7,018 miles on oil - Mobil1 5w30 HM [Re: RDY4WAR] #5158892
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Originally Posted by RDY4WAR
The use of the additives kinda makes this whole comparison null and void. How do you know the additives aren't aiding in lower wear and not the oil itself? The point of direct comparison is to eliminate as many variables as possible.

My initial thought is what is/was unfair or fair for one, is unfair/fair for both since he used the moly in both oils.

Now that said, we know the oil formulators spend a lot of time coming up with the right balance of all the oils constituents so that they work synergistically. The question then is, can we say with confidence that the addtl moly has a similar effect (good bad or otherwise) on both oils???

I suppose if you wanted to get as close as possible to an unvarnished answer you'd have to run at minimum 4 UOA's - #1 PP, #M1, #PP+MoS2, #M1 + MoS2. This doesn't begin to address the other variables like ambient temps, engine load, % @WOT etc...but it would provide better visibility into each oils performance characteristics.

Otherwise, the two UOA's are probably more than enough to win a bar room bet amongst friends.

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