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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: brages] #5009139 02/12/19 04:46 PM
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1979 Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel = 48 H.P. Slower than a drunk reciting the alphabet.

Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: brages] #5009140 02/12/19 04:48 PM
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I will so there are no Under powered vehicles sold new in 2019. There are many overpowered IMHO. Some of you never had to ride a bike or take the bus for transportation and it shows.

Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: Leo99] #5009141 02/12/19 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Leo99
The big American cars in the late 70s were really slow.

More recently:

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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: brages] #5009142 02/12/19 04:49 PM
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Plymouth TC3 had a Volkswagen rabbit engine and when you turned on the air conditioner it would really dog out. Those cars were the biggest piles ever made and were nothing but junk.


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2014 Ford F-150 4x4 supercrew
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited (wifes)
2012 Honda Civic 4 door (my daily driver)
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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: brages] #5009144 02/12/19 04:52 PM
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Buick Encore, Chevy Spark? Those tend to be roadblocks.

Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: knerml] #5009146 02/12/19 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by knerml
Originally Posted by zorobabel
Underpowered vehicles were not sold in the US for at least 50 years.


1969 VW Beetle 53 HP
1969 Fiat 128 49 HP

These do qualify for under powered. I may have overshot a bit with the 50 year time span. It looks like they stopped selling the Beetle in 79.


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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: billt460] #5009151 02/12/19 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by billt460
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel = 48 H.P. Slower than a drunk reciting the alphabet.
That's fast compared to a $40k new BMW that is out now.
https://chimicles.com/second-amende...t-filed-bmw-i3-rex-class-action-lawsuit/
The current BMW i3 with Rex (Range Extender) is by far the slowest thing around when the battery, good for only 80 miles, quits on a trip. 34 hp is all you get when the main battery is dead and the tiny 647cc scooter gas engine takes over .... It scares the begeezus out of people when it quits going up a hill or passing. ... Hence the lawsuit.

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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: brages] #5009153 02/12/19 05:00 PM
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The 2.0 they were dropping in the Jetta for a few years was pretty pathetic. Think it was like 115 hp, 8 valve rig. Closest modern car you'll probably find that's close to 1980's slow.


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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: dishdude] #5009172 02/12/19 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dishdude
The 2.0 they were dropping in the Jetta for a few years was pretty pathetic. Think it was like 115 hp, 8 valve rig. Closest modern car you'll probably find that's close to 1980's slow.

In Europe you could have gotten the Golf or Vento with the 1.4L engine, Opel Astra with 1.2L and many other compacts with 1.4L engines. But they were not handicapped by slushboxes.


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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: dishdude] #5009173 02/12/19 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dishdude
The 2.0 they were dropping in the Jetta for a few years was pretty pathetic. Think it was like 115 hp, 8 valve rig. Closest modern car you'll probably find that's close to 1980's slow.

They are perfectly fine with stick shift. They are developed with stick shift in mind.


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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: knerml] #5009176 02/12/19 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by knerml
Originally Posted by zorobabel
Underpowered vehicles were not sold in the US for at least 50 years.


1969 VW Beetle 53 HP
1969 Fiat 128 49 HP


I recall my Escort had 52HP. My wife's Festiva had 50. Her father's Jetta had 55.


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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: Propflux01] #5009179 02/12/19 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Propflux01
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I had a 76 LeMans with a 110HP Olds 4.3L V8; bought it for $150, with about 60K on it; estate car.

Regardless of the fact that all my vehicles I currently drive have been mentioned, the LeMans is a class leader in dangerously slow vehciles



Yes, My father had a '77 LeMans, straight 250 six. Lugging a large 4-door land yacht. Could hardly get out of its own way.

Sounds like my mother's late brother. C-body Plymouth Fury, loaded with every option...with a slannt six.

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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: brages] #5009193 02/12/19 05:38 PM
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My father owned 5 Chevrolet Sprints during the 80’s, he used them for work. I was passed down an ‘86 four door. 3 cylinder 5 speed, 55hp. 330k when I took over. 60+ mpg during early 90’s $.75 a gallon gas made up for getting passed by my own exhaust...


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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: brages] #5009206 02/12/19 05:47 PM
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Re: What is the most underpowered vehicle found in large numbers on the roads today? [Re: joekingcorvette] #5009219 02/12/19 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by joekingcorvette
Plymouth TC3 had a Volkswagen rabbit engine and when you turned on the air conditioner it would really dog out. Those cars were the biggest piles ever made and were nothing but junk.


My mom had a Dodge 024 Omni Miser, same car. Same junk. My dad treated the gas pedal as an on-off switch. Luckily it had a stick shift, manual steering, and no AC. Despite the frugality it still had enough parts to break-- pot metal door handles, clutches, and it had a huge rust hole in the door at eight years old.

I've had a variety of slow cars:

1982 cadillac cimarron 1.8/ auto
1983 Benz 240d 68 hp. Was dangerous at 4-way stops because other people couldn't tell if I was taking my turn because my 0-5 time was so slow. LOL
1991 Dodge dakota 2.5 (k car motor) 5 speed. Hauled 20 sheets of sheetrock in it once.
1995 Saturn SW1 would do 75 but the exhaust was tuned to discourage it and the whole car sounded unhappy. Never really took it over 70.
2004 Jeep Liberty 2.4 (Cirrus/stratus/PT motor) 5 speed. Was not only slow it was stupid without any low end torque. Had to rev it to get anywhere.
2005 prius is spunky from a dead stop but runs out of steam merging on the highway, as previously alluded to. It will eventually go from 70 to 85 and hold it rather pleasantly, the benefits of aerodynamics.

My "Fast" cars were a 1992 Cutlass Ciera 3.3 V6, a 92 Dakota 3.9 Magnum 5 speed 2wd, 2000 Camry V6.

Posers were a 97 Grand Marquis 180 hp 4.6 V8, a 2.8 V6 auto 89 Firebird, and, arguably, my 300-6 F150. People expected speed from these for one reason or another.

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