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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5005777
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well done!

Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5005783
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I guess you get used to working like this, being in the Southern Hemisphere.

Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5005803
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Nice job!

Hiwever, before spending money on resurfacing the flyweel, I would make sure you have enough thickness to play with. It just may be too far gone if the rivets were digging in.


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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5005809
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The fingers look very long. All the diaphragm spring clutches I have seen have shorter fingers and part of the diaphragm can been seen, unlike this one where the pressure plate cover hides the diaphragm.


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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: KrisZ] #5005862
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Originally Posted by mk378
I guess you get used to working like this, being in the Southern Hemisphere.

It was a joke waiting to happen

Originally Posted by KrisZ
However, before spending money on resurfacing the flyweel, I would make sure you have enough thickness to play with. It jus may be too far if the rivets were digging in.
The rivets (those in the friction disc) didnt touch on the flywheel side, only on the pressure plate side, resulting in asymmetrical wear between both sides of the friction disc. I’ll take pics of worn parts tomorrow with a full phone battery smile

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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5005994
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Dumb question: any easier to lift the engine instead? I see you've got it out and done with already, but if I was facing this job, I'd be wondering about that option.

Edit: good job! Sounds like it was quite the task.

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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5006793
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Nice work!

Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5008351
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Attached you'll find the best I can do for now with the flywheel.

Didn't machine the ring where the dowels come because after balancing there was still a 0.05mm warp. I left that part zlone

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0.10 shaved

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0.30 final

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Final close-up

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Cracks final


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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5008359
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The flywheel was definitely heat stressed. Cracks are a dead giveaway, but the different shade spots show the localized overheating quite well. It will probably hold up, but I would take it easy.


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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: KrisZ] #5008426
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Originally Posted by KrisZ
The flywheel was definitely heat stressed. Cracks are a dead giveaway, but the different shade spots show the localized overheating quite well. It will probably hold up, but I would take it easy.

Yeah I will not drag race it.

Today I have to put CV shafts back, suspension, replace a tie rod and it should be rolling


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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5008436
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I've always had Flywheels "Ground", A Lathe-bit will ride over the hard spots......Just my opinion!


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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5008442
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If life allows us to spend some big money in cars, this toy is gonna get some uprated parts (because anyway suspension would be dead, every rubber parts, etc.)


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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: clinebarger] #5008444
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Originally Posted by clinebarger
I've always had Flywheels "Ground", A Lathe-bit will ride over the hard spots......Just my opinion!

I thought that, but then going over with the needle tip dial gauge (how do you people call that device?) shown virtually nothing bumpy. But that was one really BIG lathe, could have put myself in it

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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5008453
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Originally Posted by Superflan
Originally Posted by clinebarger
I've always had Flywheels "Ground", A Lathe-bit will ride over the hard spots......Just my opinion!

I thought that, but then going over with the needle tip dial gauge (how do you people call that device?) shown virtually nothing bumpy. But that was one really BIG lathe, could have put myself in it


Dial Indicator, I guess if the lathe was big enough & you plunge the tool holder/bit head-on into the material, Maybe? Surfacing usually requires a consistency in the material being cut.
I machine a lot of automatic transmission pistons, pressure plates & drums, But am in no way a "all knowing" expert on running a lathe!


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Re: Wife's RAV4, burnt clutch, DIY [Re: Superflan] #5008558
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Yeah it was a very big lathe.

Well, the car is running!

It was a great experience to learn car mechanics.

Thanks to the crowd here at BITOG, friends, brother, and brother's friends for making all this possible, all in a short delay with more than good results ! And parents for keeping my 3yr old son entertained while I do those repairs

Keep wrenching, learn something.

Bonus: old parts pics

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Old Friction disc

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Other side

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Old pressure plate

Last edited by Superflan; 02/12/19 06:46 AM.

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