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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
[Re: sibhus]
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02/07/19 08:47 PM
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Leo99
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Why do you think it needs a fuel cleaner?
Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming
2003 Corolla 250,000 miles (RIP) 2004 Corolla 125,000 miles 2004 Rav4 370,000 miles 2015 Camry 70,000 miles
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
[Re: sibhus]
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02/07/19 08:47 PM
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StevieC
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Out of the ones you listed I've been happy with Redline SI-1 and I have run it after an oil change. No issues. I generally like to put it in the last tank of gas before an oil change, run it right down, re-fuel and then change the oil but there is nothing saying you have to do it this way. Why do you think it needs a fuel cleaner? Some manuals call for it. My Toyota Highlander did.
Last edited by StevieC; 02/07/19 08:48 PM.
'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - 21k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w30 '06 Hyundai Santa Fe - 535k KM (Dead) - AMSOIL SS 0w30
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
[Re: sibhus]
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02/07/19 08:52 PM
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paulri
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I called Techron's support line a few months ago, and the guy told me that it didn't matter (when during the OCI to run the cleaner). I have read as much in threads on here, on the same question.
2005 Toyota Sienna LE; 156,000 miles 1998 Honda Civic DX; 202,000 miles
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
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02/07/19 09:38 PM
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y_p_w
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I called Techron's support line a few months ago, and the guy told me that it didn't matter (when during the OCI to run the cleaner). I have read as much in threads on here, on the same question. It was a long time ago, but way back when Chevron had a recommendation that the best time to us Techron Concentrate would be right before an oil change. The rationale was that the high detergent content could get into the oil and deplete some of the oil additives. I suppose the idea was to have a fairly short time where the additives were artificially depleted. They didn't really explain it though. A lot could have changed, including what went into the bottle as well as the additives used in motor oil.
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
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02/08/19 09:49 AM
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Rolla07
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This part is what scares me...
2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles PP 0w20 & ST 4967
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
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02/08/19 11:22 AM
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Audios
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Techron makes the BMW cleaner, but Redline is a great brand as well.
2002 VW Golf TDI-Mobil 1 5/40 TDT 2007 Mercedes GL320 CDI- M1 0/30 ESP 2005 BMW M3 BMW Twin Power 10/60 2003 BMW M5-Fuchs 5/40 1998 BMW M3/4/5 Fuchs 5/40
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
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02/08/19 12:15 PM
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Gebo
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When I got my last used car, I used 4 different ones in 4 different tanks of gas. Probably stupid but I was confident I had all the bases covered.
'98 LEX LS400 290K '02 4Runner 230K '05 Lex LS430 85K '07 Lex GX470 65K Amsoil in last two. Schaeffer in the first two.
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
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02/08/19 01:03 PM
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bubbatime
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Just for the sake of conversation, over a million miles driven and not one ounce of "fuel system cleaner" has ever entered my tank. Shrug?
17 Chrysler Pacifica Edge Syn 5W30 13 Yamaha XT250 Valv MC 10W40 10 Acura TSX 2.4 SuperTech Syn 5W20 06 GMC Sierra SuperTech 10W30
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
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02/08/19 01:18 PM
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TiGeo
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Used Techtron and BG44K. Just once every few years. Probably not too critical if you use Top Tier gas. Never heard of an issue of the oil change before but could make sense I suppose.
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
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02/08/19 01:57 PM
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DGXR
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Besides the extra detergents possibly depleting the oil additives, another argument for using the fuel cleaner just before an oil change is this: the cleaning action may add carbon to the oil, making it dirty quicker, and you don't want that extra carbon running around your motor for thousands of miles. Can't say what cleaner is better than the others, but all 3 that you mention are known to be effective. I've heard many times that the BG44 is "the best" but those 3 all work. Good luck with the "new" BMW.
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
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02/13/19 05:16 PM
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GZRider
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BMW sells relabeled Techron through their dealer network for twice the price. Do with that info what you will.
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Re: Which fuel cleaner and oil change
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02/13/19 05:47 PM
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y_p_w
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Techron makes the BMW cleaner, but Redline is a great brand as well. Red Line used to sell a product called SI-2. It was supposed to be a less concentrated version of SI-1. I saw it once (20 years ago or longer) and it carried a BMW equivalent part number. That was supposed to be a one bottle per tank fuel treatment. It's no longer listed, but the MSDS is still available. https://www.redlineoil.com/content/files/tech/SI-2%20MSDS.pdf
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