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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #4998501 02/01/19 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Facing the vehicle to the wind in an open area, gives those cold starts a real-feel temperature to deal with.


Wind chill has zero effect on an engine, it's all about the ambient temperature.


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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: Patman] #4998516 02/01/19 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Patman
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Facing the vehicle to the wind in an open area, gives those cold starts a real-feel temperature to deal with.


Wind chill has zero affect on an engine, it's all about the ambient temperature.


Wind only effects the rate of heat loss, but yeah, it can't get any colder than the still air temperature.

Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: Gokhan] #4998615 02/01/19 03:28 PM
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Here in northern Illinois, my IS300 sat outside from last Saturday, the 26th, until Wednesday morning. It was about -30F. Wind chill was around -53F. The cat had a vet appointment at 9am. I went out to start it up at 8. It cranked as slowly as I've ever heard a car crank. The battery is 3 years old. It fired up after what seemed like 20 seconds of turning over. I let it run for 25 minutes before leaving and I left it running at the vet's while I was inside for an hour. Other than the very hard start, the only other thing that struck me was that the power steering fluid never thinned out. After two and a half hours running, the steering was still very heavy. This car is a champ! Fifteen years old with almost 150,000 on it and it's as solid and reliable as most new cars out there. My neighbor's 2016 Chevy small-suv-thingy didn't start that same morning.

Also, the forecast for Monday is 41F and rain. What a difference 5 days makes.


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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: 2003GPW] #4998626 02/01/19 03:37 PM
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You were definitely past the cold cranking
Originally Posted by 2003GPW
Here in northern Illinois, my IS300 sat outside from last Saturday, the 26th, until Wednesday morning. It was about -30F. Wind chill was around -53F. The cat had a vet appointment at 9am. I went out to start it up at 8. It cranked as slowly as I've ever heard a car crank. The battery is 3 years old. It fired up after what seemed like 20 seconds of turning over. I let it run for 25 minutes before leaving and I left it running at the vet's while I was inside for an hour. Other than the very hard start, the only other thing that struck me was that the power steering fluid never thinned out. After two and a half hours running, the steering was still very heavy. This car is a champ! Fifteen years old with almost 150,000 on it and it's as solid and reliable as most new cars out there. My neighbor's 2016 Chevy small-suv-thingy didn't start that same morning.

Also, the forecast for Monday is 41F and rain. What a difference 5 days makes.


You were definitely past the Cold Cranking rating for your "blend" and were probably right into the pumping limit. The CCS limit for the 5w-xx designation is -30C (-22F), you were roughly 5C below that at -35C, which is where the cold temp pumping limit for the designation is tested. Considering you have it mixed with 1/2 a quart of 15w-50, you are lucky it pumped.


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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: Gokhan] #4998628 02/01/19 03:40 PM
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2005 Matrix with 5w30 VWB in it. Car has 150k and started up just fine at -3 the other morning. Just put a new battery in since the old one was over 6 years old. Glad I replaced it. I only let it idle for 30 seconds since the cold idle is pretty high, around 1600 or so. I just go very easy on it and the rpms are around 1800 or so when driving. Car seemed to do fine. Also have 4500 miles/3 months on the VWB so time for an oil change soon. Fourth consecutive interval of that oil and doesn't burn a drop of it unlike with some other oils like MC syn-blend 5w20 and 5w30.

Have 5 qts of PUP 5w20 on hand along with 20 qts of Idemitsu 0w20 full syn that I can use.

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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: SatinSilver] #4998635 02/01/19 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SatinSilver
2005 Matrix with 5w30 VWB in it. Car has 150k and started up just fine at -3 the other morning. Just put a new battery in since the old one was over 6 years old. Glad I replaced it. I only let it idle for 30 seconds since the cold idle is pretty high, around 1600 or so. I just go very easy on it and the rpms are around 1800 or so when driving. Car seemed to do fine. Also have 4500 miles/3 months on the VWB so time for an oil change soon.



Good to hear sir. The PP 5w30 did great Wednesday and Thursday morning smile



Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: Gokhan] #4998636 02/01/19 03:45 PM
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I'm in MN. I parked my VW Golf TDI outside on the coldest night, -50'ish. Cycled the glow plugs a few times and it fired right up in the AM, no drama, no weird noises. It has Castrol SLX professional 5w-30 in it.

Our 2010 Impala and 2006 Sienna also fired right up that afternoon, started them just to run them a bit. They were a little slow to crank but sounded fine on start.The Power steering on both wined a little but only for a few seconds. Both have Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 in them.

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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: Gokhan] #4998638 02/01/19 03:45 PM
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There will be more battery issues than oil issues unless you're running 20w-50 in these temps.

No oil issues for me.


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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: Gokhan] #4998639 02/01/19 03:45 PM
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Glad it's warming up to the 50's this weekend. What a difference a few days makes! No more bone chilling temps for a while I hope.

Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: PimTac] #4998650 02/01/19 04:02 PM
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January 21st, overnight temp hit -28C, my Soul failed to start. It had started a couple of times at that temp before the 21st, but couldn't do it that day.

Now, mea culpa, it has M1EP 10W-30 in it, a nine-year old battery (original!), and was not plugged in.

Since then, have been plugging it in, but even with that, it struggles to start as we are still in -28C overnight temps.

Battery is obviously on its last legs, but can't change it now or change the oil, so we will see what happens.





Why can’t you change the battery?


Serious cash flow problem at the moment. Also reason oil wasn't changed for the winter...a move happened a lot sooner than I thought and $$ have been tied up in that.

I don't blame the car for not starting, it deserves better for that!


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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: Gokhan] #4998940 02/01/19 09:37 PM
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Well, my 2015 Chevy 2500 gasser pickup did just fine with the 10w30 syn blend that it gets. And my heavy commercial truck did just fine with the 10w30 HDEO syn blend that it gets. Both vehicles starting and running just fine at -20F and below. My commercial truck was in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, and Indiana for all of this cold snap. Pickup was in Iowa the whole time. Wife used in several times to go to town during this cold snap. Did have to finally change out a fuel filter in the commercial truck this morning, but that was the extent of anything related to the cold.


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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: TiredTrucker] #4998982 02/01/19 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredTrucker
Well, my 2015 Chevy 2500 gasser pickup did just fine with the 10w30 syn blend that it gets. And my heavy commercial truck did just fine with the 10w30 HDEO syn blend that it gets. Both vehicles starting and running just fine at -20F and below. My commercial truck was in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, and Indiana for all of this cold snap. Pickup was in Iowa the whole time. Wife used in several times to go to town during this cold snap. Did have to finally change out a fuel filter in the commercial truck this morning, but that was the extent of anything related to the cold.


You have them plugged in?


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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: Gokhan] #4998986 02/01/19 10:28 PM
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No problem each morning after temps of near ~ –40 overnight and dead block heater. This is the first time I'm running Mobil1 0W-30. For going on nine years it had been on a steady diet of Mobil 1 5W-30.

I didn't notice any difference. The engine sounded the same starting and running as it did in earlier years when I couldn't plug it in and with 5W-30 in it.


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Re: Has anyone had oil-related issues during the polar vortex? [Re: Gokhan] #4998993 02/01/19 10:38 PM
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My 04 Grand Cherokee started very slowly even with a new battery but it was -22. It went into reverse fine but hesitated going into drive for a few seconds. Is that normal considering the conditions?
Once I was going it was fine and warmed up quickly


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When I was a kid we always had a heated dipstick in the car or truck we had in the winter. I can remember the things would barely crank without them.

Somewhere along the line, we/I stopped using them and I don't remember why.... but starting was never a problem after that.

Now yesterday, at a balmy -25 windchill, I got in the ranger to start it and it was slow but started. The oil pressure took about 30 sec to move the needle. I let it run for a while to defrost the windows and off it went.

If this cold is going to be a new normal, I'll have to dig out one of those old heated dipsticks.

One of my sisters old ford vans way back when had a 1500w heater on the water hose... it was toasty warm heat and an easy start every morning and no waiting.

Winters musta been much colder back then.

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