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Re: 96 Civic - 5w30 Castrol Magnatec [Re: researcher] #4996503
01/31/19 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by researcher
Originally Posted by Char Baby
Good report as far as metal content PPM. However it seem as thought the oil had sheared quite a bit. Am I wrong?

I did a VOA on this 5w30 Magnatec D1G2 (I think I posted it in the VOA section) and according to Blackstone, new viscosity is 10.25. So it sheared 1.12 cSt.


Ahh, I see.
IDK where the oil started at in a VOA and, I am not implying that the report is not good, it's very good in fact. Nice!
I guess that what I am looking at in the report is the range that Blackstone published in the top 3 areas:

SUS Visc, cST Visc & Flashpoint are at/near the low end of Blackstone's range, which lead me to think that the oil had sheared. The TBN is still great! smile


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Re: 96 Civic - 5w30 Castrol Magnatec [Re: Char Baby] #4996746
01/31/19 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Char Baby
Originally Posted by researcher
Originally Posted by Char Baby
Good report as far as metal content PPM. However it seem as thought the oil had sheared quite a bit. Am I wrong?

I did a VOA on this 5w30 Magnatec D1G2 (I think I posted it in the VOA section) and according to Blackstone, new viscosity is 10.25. So it sheared 1.12 cSt.


Ahh, I see.
IDK where the oil started at in a VOA and, I am not implying that the report is not good, it's very good in fact. Nice!
I guess that what I am looking at in the report is the range that Blackstone published in the top 3 areas:

SUS Visc, cST Visc & Flashpoint are at/near the low end of Blackstone's range, which lead me to think that the oil had sheared. The TBN is still great! smile


You're right, you make a good point. That's why I like everyone's perspective on it, different angle of looking at things than I was. All those were on the low end of the scale! I've already changed the oil with 5w30 Magnatec, going to run that for a bit and use my oil extractor to send that in for a UOA see how it's doing in maybe 2k miles. That's why I do these UOA's to see what the engine "likes". If I find that it's shearing at 2k miles I'll be looking at Castrol Edge to try. What's funny is that the civic is known to be easy on oil. So that's why I'm wondering if all the short trips is what affected it.

Oh and this oil started at 10.25 cSt, I made sure to do a VOA before starting that why I'd know how much did it fall. The flashpoint was 425 when new, fell to 370.

Re: 96 Civic - 5w30 Castrol Magnatec [Re: Char Baby] #4996808
01/31/19 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Char Baby
SUS Visc, cST Visc & Flashpoint are at/near the low end of Blackstone's range, which lead me to think that the oil had sheared. The TBN is still great! smile

Flashpoint is not an indicator of mechanical shear, all of those point to fuel dilution.


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Re: 96 Civic - 5w30 Castrol Magnatec [Re: kschachn] #4996809
01/31/19 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by Char Baby
SUS Visc, cST Visc & Flashpoint are at/near the low end of Blackstone's range, which lead me to think that the oil had sheared. The TBN is still great! smile

Flashpoint is not an indicator of mechanical shear, all of those point to fuel dilution.


Then, that points to the short tripping that I've been doing. Since it never gets hot enough to burn stuff off. I already know the fuel system is fixed properly.

Re: 96 Civic - 5w30 Castrol Magnatec [Re: researcher] #4997040
01/31/19 01:16 PM
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Yes kschachn, dilution.

researcher, short trips could be the cause.


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Re: 96 Civic - 5w30 Castrol Magnatec [Re: 53' Stude] #5003562
02/06/19 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 53' Stude
I would stay with the Magnatec personally and report looks good smile.

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I agree. Castrol magnatec is a great oil... Hols up well in everything it is used in. Even Ford Ecoboost motors..


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Re: 96 Civic - 5w30 Castrol Magnatec [Re: researcher] #5003989
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It looks good try going 5K the lube will work well at this mileage short tripping is the hardest driving you can do on the engine.


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Re: 96 Civic - 5w30 Castrol Magnatec [Re: dave1251] #5004105
02/07/19 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bbhero
Originally Posted by 53' Stude
I would stay with the Magnatec personally and report looks good smile.

Thanks



^^^↑^^^^^

I agree. Castrol magnatec is a great oil... Hols up well in everything it is used in. Even Ford Ecoboost motors..


I agree I think it's a good oil, going to be monitoring the next oil interval (testing early with evacuation pump). Then I can see if it is on the same path as this UOA.


Originally Posted by dave1251
It looks good try going 5K the lube will work well at this mileage short tripping is the hardest driving you can do on the engine.


No I won't be trying 5k miles, not when it was obvious that the short tripping caused the flashpoint, viscosity to decrease due to fuel dilution. I do agree that the short trips are the hardest, and I try to get it out over the weekend for more highway driving. But.. It's winter in Michigan and when there is one snowstorm, ice storm after another, getting home is the safest option, lol.
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The easiest solution is to monitor it, and if it's an earlier oil change then that's the answer. Doesn't have this issue when it gets warmer outside. I don't think switching to Castrol EDGE would really be any different.

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