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Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: HangFire] #4992297
01/27/19 10:52 AM
01/27/19 10:52 AM
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MA, Mittelfranken.de
Trav Offline
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Originally Posted by HangFire
Interesting some of these vehicles list transmission and even an engine rebuild. True some are really old vehicles, but I think some of us are more forgiving of major work than others.

My Dakota at 130-some K miles would never make my list because I had to put heads on it at 105K. But at 2K miles per year now, it may outlast me before it needs them again.


Considering they started building the W186 around 1950 or 51 yes they are getting very old, multiple owners, who knows what for maintenance if you are lucky enough to get a true survivor not something oily rag restored.
Literally hundreds of thousands of these vehicles were in daily taxi service over the decades they were in production (usually 4 cyl diesel) and the norm in this sort of service was about a million KM. MB didn't consider the engine broken in properly till it had 100K KM (60K miles) on it.

In the German owners manual it said in black and white the life expectancy of this car is 30 years. That assumes the car is properly maintained and serviced using OE parts which in Germany is the norm not the exception. This was my W123 200D 4 spd stick at 25 yrs old the day I sold it, it was flawless and all original. Notice the nice slim Euro bumpers.





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ASE L1, Master. Deutsch Meisterbrief.
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: SteveSRT8] #4992316
01/27/19 11:16 AM
01/27/19 11:16 AM
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Posts: 2,327
Toronto, Canada
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Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted by SteveSRT8
A good truck for sure. How does GM get those two piece driveshafts with 3 u-joints and a carrier bearing to hold up for so long?

Not sure I understand your question. Nothing inherently wrong with multipiece driveshafts, all MD trucks have them. At work we have a truck with a 4-piece drive shaft. As long as sufficiently beefy U-joints and carrier bearings are spec'd, they will be troublefree.


2006 GMC Sierra 4.3l, NV3500,G80 , Mobil 1 5W30, Dexcool.
1987 BMW R80 - sold
2015 Honda CBR300R

Staying out of the right lane a lot.
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: Trav] #4992426
01/27/19 01:36 PM
01/27/19 01:36 PM
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Posts: 442
Atlanta, GA
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Atlanta, GA
Originally Posted by Trav
Originally Posted by HangFire
Interesting some of these vehicles list transmission and even an engine rebuild. True some are really old vehicles, but I think some of us are more forgiving of major work than others.

My Dakota at 130-some K miles would never make my list because I had to put heads on it at 105K. But at 2K miles per year now, it may outlast me before it needs them again.


Considering they started building the W186 around 1950 or 51 yes they are getting very old, multiple owners, who knows what for maintenance if you are lucky enough to get a true survivor not something oily rag restored.
Literally hundreds of thousands of these vehicles were in daily taxi service over the decades they were in production (usually 4 cyl diesel) and the norm in this sort of service was about a million KM. MB didn't consider the engine broken in properly till it had 100K KM (60K miles) on it.

In the German owners manual it said in black and white the life expectancy of this car is 30 years. That assumes the car is properly maintained and serviced using OE parts which in Germany is the norm not the exception. This was my W123 200D 4 spd stick at 25 yrs old the day I sold it, it was flawless and all original. Notice the nice slim Euro bumpers.






What I would give for a early-mid 80's W123 300D - anyone who has a good example nowadays hangs onto them until they are ready for the scrap yard.


2012 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI - 66k
2011 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI - 46k
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: shiny] #4992466
01/27/19 02:21 PM
01/27/19 02:21 PM
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Posts: 5,796
In the Garage...
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In the Garage...
Toss up between a 1991 S-10 Blazer and 1998 Pontiac Bonneville.

I personally drove the Blazer to 280,000 miles and gave it to a buddy who drove it to 400,000

Couple of water pumps, brakes, 2 oil pressure sending units. 1 pitman arm, one idler arm, 1 intake gasket.


Bonneville went 280,000 when I sold it, still bumming around the area.


Mike
00 Trans Am WS6 5.7 LS1
17 Silverado 3500HD 6.0
14 Caprice PPV 6.0
15 Malibu LTZ Turbo
12 Passport TT
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: shiny] #4992469
01/27/19 02:24 PM
01/27/19 02:24 PM
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In the Garage...
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In the Garage...
Just the a side note...I always love the guys on the original clutch with those miles. 1. It is because you don't make enough power to break anything. 2. It never sees the track 3. Burnouts are fun you should try it sometime. : wink

WS6 is 68,000 miles. Clutch number 3. To be fair the last and current clutch are Mcleod twin disk. The don't last like a stock clutch. smile


Mike
00 Trans Am WS6 5.7 LS1
17 Silverado 3500HD 6.0
14 Caprice PPV 6.0
15 Malibu LTZ Turbo
12 Passport TT
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: pezzy669] #4992862
01/27/19 07:26 PM
01/27/19 07:26 PM
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MA, Mittelfranken.de
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Originally Posted by pezzy669

What I would give for a early-mid 80's W123 300D - anyone who has a good example nowadays hangs onto them until they are ready for the scrap yard.


It depends on the condition and miles/Km. Throw away any sort of book that may list some value away, its the car and what you are willing to pay for it.
They can get quite pricey for a nice to pristine example.


ASE L1, Master. Deutsch Meisterbrief.
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: Trav] #4992882
01/27/19 07:47 PM
01/27/19 07:47 PM
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OH
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OH
Originally Posted by Trav
Awesome cars in every way, their lack of high speed on the non turbo diesels was more than made up for with the sweet sound of that diesel engine at high rpm (for a diesel).


Our 123 240Ds were indeed slow, but they did the job and the little four cylinder did sound good with some revs, like on an interstate trip.
Kind of a hard mechanical sound, but really sweet.
Liked those cars for their excellent suspension. No car I've ever driven has offered a better balance of ride and handling.
Ride was smooth over the roughest surfaces and handling with the engineered in oversteer in hard corners requiring no correction at all yielding effortless fast driving.
Great cars.


18 Accord Hybrid 10K HGMO 0W-20
17 Forester 24K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 115K SSO 0W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: shiny] #4992888
01/27/19 07:57 PM
01/27/19 07:57 PM
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AZ
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AZ
95 dodge 12V cummins 5 speed,

never done a darn thing to it, new balljoints, new batteries, 310K. second clutch was installed at 240K.

next would be the 2012 civic EX. 180K, brakes and oil, tires. nothing else. great little car.


08 6.7 cummins G56
04 5.9 cummins
95 12V NV4500.
11 ranger 4.0
18 crf450RX
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: SteveSRT8] #4992949
01/27/19 08:56 PM
01/27/19 08:56 PM
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Posts: 3,372
Fort Worth, Texas
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Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted by SteveSRT8
Originally Posted by clinebarger
My current daily driver.....2006 Chevy 2500HD, Over 400,000 with nothing but maintenance items except a couple sets of transmission cooler lines. Engine, Transmission, Starter, Alternator, Radiator/Hoses, PS Pump/Hydroboost/Hoses, AC Compressor, Injectors, Injection Pump, U-Joints/Carrier Bearing, Wheel Bearings, Engine/Trans mounts, & Every Sensor on the truck is still original!



A good truck for sure. How does GM get those two piece driveshafts with 3 u-joints and a carrier bearing to hold up for so long?


Can't really give credit to GM as 2-piece shafts are made by Dana-Spicer where most of their 1-piece shafts are made by AAM.


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: Trav] #4993244
01/28/19 07:30 AM
01/28/19 07:30 AM
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New England
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New England
Originally Posted by Trav
Originally Posted by pezzy669

What I would give for a early-mid 80's W123 300D - anyone who has a good example nowadays hangs onto them until they are ready for the scrap yard.


It depends on the condition and miles/Km. Throw away any sort of book that may list some value away, its the car and what you are willing to pay for it.
They can get quite pricey for a nice to pristine example.


The reputation is funny for these cars. My parents hd one living in Egypt and I as kid never thought much of it except it was decent car and a fancier taxi. I liked my dads K5 blazer which was a site vehicle . The AC was way better and neat to peer over other cars.

BITOG has an odd fetish for taxis

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Last edited by madRiver; 01/28/19 07:32 AM.
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: shiny] #4993265
01/28/19 08:04 AM
01/28/19 08:04 AM
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Central Virginia
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Central Virginia
Chevy Silverado 2WD truck with old style iron block 4.3 and 4 speed automatic. 2013 was the last year for them. The 4.8 was even better but didn't get good gas mileage. My 4.3 averages 18-19, up to 22 on a trip.


12 Chevy Silverado ext. cab LS, 2WD 4.3 auto
18 Mustang GT 5.0 auto
07 Harley Dyna Street Bob 96 c.i. 6 sp.
00 Mustang GT auto
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: shiny] #4993285
01/28/19 08:37 AM
01/28/19 08:37 AM
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Miami Beach
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Miami Beach
I had 2 Reliable Trouble Free Vehicles. 2000 Chevrolet Suburban plus a 2005 Ford Crown Victoria. Put 300K miles on both of them.


2016 Chevrolet Tahoe LT
Mobil 1 0w20 AFE or EP
AC Delco Filters
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: shiny] #4993289
01/28/19 08:40 AM
01/28/19 08:40 AM
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Posts: 3,436
Phoenix, AZ
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Phoenix, AZ
I would say my old 2003 Corolla, miss the car Buddy still has it. 175k, still no repairs


'17 Armada Platinum; dealer fill, 45K
'10 F150 5.4; ST 15w40/LG, 103K
'70 F100; Valvoline 15w40/LG

MMO in Fuel
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: shiny] #4993377
01/28/19 10:04 AM
01/28/19 10:04 AM
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Posts: 17
FL
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FL
Easy. My wife's 2006 Acura TSX. Currently at 215K. Drives pretty much like it did when new. I'm not seeing ANY oil consumption what so ever. The only think that needed done was a recall on the upper PS hose. OEM alternator went out at around 140K and I keep putting cheap [censored] Advance Auto ones in and they last for 30K-40K or so. I drain the ATF when I think about it. 3 qts out, 3 quarts in. I usually use the Honda ATF, but I have used the Valvoline Import on occasions. I usually use PP 5w-30 oil, but I have from time to time used 0w-40. This has to be the best motor Honda has ever built. I would have thought I would have had some trans issues by now, but knock on wood. I did change out the trans filter at 60K on the thing. Love this car. Wish they would never have stopped making it. Still hauls [censored] when I need it to.

Also, been t-boned by a propane truck, backed into by a U haul, and my wife has had a handful of accidents in it, that I know of at least:) Car is a tank. Drives straight as an arrow until this day.

Last edited by Kozman011; 01/28/19 10:06 AM.
Re: Your Most RELIABLE, TROUBLE-FREE Vehicle? [Re: shiny] #4993380
01/28/19 10:11 AM
01/28/19 10:11 AM
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Chattanooga, TN
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Chattanooga, TN
1992 Toyota Camry V6, held it 22 years and 220,000 miles. Still running well when we traded it.

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