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Re: TGMO 0W-20 SN (Toyota), TBN/TAN, 5142 M, 85 Corolla 4A-LC [Re: Gokhan] #4989026
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Since the lead is low, the copper probably came from the bushings/thrust washers. It could be some transient effect or even some measurement error.

Yeah, I'm a little concerned about conventional for two-year OCIs.

Note that the universal averages shown in the last column of the Blackstone report are for 2,600 miles. Since I ran for twice the mileage and close to two years, my numbers are still a lot better than the universal averages.

Another choice is PPPP Euro 5W-40 A3/B4/SN. It's expensive though.


1985 Toyota Corolla LE, 4A-LC engine, ~ 272,000 M
Toyota (TGMO) 0W-20 SN
Mobil 1 EP M1-103 filter, 90430-12031 drain gasket
Re: TGMO 0W-20 SN (Toyota), TBN/TAN, 5142 M, 85 Corolla 4A-LC [Re: Gokhan] #4989387
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Considering lab measuring error of a few ppm you are barely seeing any wear. Certainly nothing to worry about.
Was the engine oil up to temp or cold. I would trust a cold reading a bit less and probably try the dino on a slightly shorter interval.

Re: TGMO 0W-20 SN (Toyota), TBN/TAN, 5142 M, 85 Corolla 4A-LC [Re: Gokhan] #4989433
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Originally Posted by Gokhan
Any objections to Delo SDE 15W-40 CK-4/SN conventional (HTHSV = 4.2 cP, phosphorus = 760 ppm) for the next fill?

Other options are M1 15W-50 SN full synthetic, Delo XLE 5W-40 CK-4/SN PLUS full synthetic, or a ten-year-old jug of Delvac 15W-40 CJ-4/SM conventional.

I don't think "Delo XLE 5W-40 CK-4/SN PLUS full synthetic" exists. There is Delo XSP 5W-40 syn, and there is Delo XLE 15W-40 blend. I wouldn't mind if you tried these 2, but it's time to use the Delvac before the jug disintegrates.


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Re: TGMO 0W-20 SN (Toyota), TBN/TAN, 5142 M, 85 Corolla 4A-LC [Re: zorobabel] #4989663
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Originally Posted by DrDanger
Considering lab measuring error of a few ppm you are barely seeing any wear. Certainly nothing to worry about.
Was the engine oil up to temp or cold. I would trust a cold reading a bit less and probably try the dino on a slightly shorter interval.

Driven for 20 miles on the freeway and hot.

Originally Posted by zorobabel
Originally Posted by Gokhan
Any objections to Delo SDE 15W-40 CK-4/SN conventional (HTHSV = 4.2 cP, phosphorus = 760 ppm) for the next fill?
Other options are M1 15W-50 SN full synthetic, Delo XLE 5W-40 CK-4/SN PLUS full synthetic, or a ten-year-old jug of Delvac 15W-40 CJ-4/SM conventional.

I don't think "Delo XLE 5W-40 CK-4/SN PLUS full synthetic" exists. There is Delo XSP 5W-40 syn, and there is Delo XLE 15W-40 blend. I wouldn't mind if you tried these 2, but it's time to use the Delvac before the jug disintegrates.

My typo. It's Delo XSP 5W-40 CK-4/SN PLUS full synthetic. Yes, I'm also aware of the Delo XLE 15W-40 CK-4/SN PLUS synthetic blend. Delvac 15W-40 CJ-4/SM is about eight-years-old. No SN PLUS and Allison TES-439 on the SDE, while the XLE and XSP have them.

There is no moly in the XSP and XLE. SDE seems to have a better additive package. I didn't see much difference in wear metals in UOAs for conventional and synthetic HDEOs.


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Toyota (TGMO) 0W-20 SN
Mobil 1 EP M1-103 filter, 90430-12031 drain gasket
Re: TGMO 0W-20 SN (Toyota), TBN/TAN, 5142 M, 85 Corolla 4A-LC [Re: Gokhan] #4994093
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The next OCI will be M1 EP 0W-20 SN PLUS and FU XG3600 oil filter.


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Toyota (TGMO) 0W-20 SN
Mobil 1 EP M1-103 filter, 90430-12031 drain gasket
Re: TGMO 0W-20 SN (Toyota), TBN/TAN, 5142 M, 85 Corolla 4A-LC [Re: Gokhan] #5003611
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Which container is your TGMO? Quart or can?

Re: TGMO 0W-20 SN (Toyota), TBN/TAN, 5142 M, 85 Corolla 4A-LC [Re: kr_bitog] #5012570
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Originally Posted by kr_bitog
Which container is your TGMO? Quart or can?

Quart is the only container here other than the 55-gallon drum.


1985 Toyota Corolla LE, 4A-LC engine, ~ 272,000 M
Toyota (TGMO) 0W-20 SN
Mobil 1 EP M1-103 filter, 90430-12031 drain gasket
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