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OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? #4987625
01/22/19 02:50 PM
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Reason why I'm asking if I should use OEM parts when I change my spark plug (and the cap & rotor along with it), is that my local Honda place wants $80 for the cap and rotor; Autozone has a kit with everything for only $53: https://www.autozone.com/ignition/p...r-kit/msd-ignition-rotor/839185_511819_0

I am ok with going OEM, but I'm just wondering if it is worth the extra 30 bucks. FWIW, I"m going to be installing iridium NGK plugs, so I don't plan on changing the plugs anytime soon after this.


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Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4987636
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Honda's can be finicky about ignition components. That's why I used OEM when I did my Accord's cap & rotor. Spend the extra $30 and be set for the next 202k miles.

Also, don't forget about the plug wires when doing a tune up.


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Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4987647
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ON, Canada eh?
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That link you provided looks to be for a performance setup which could have problems with your standard coil and standard wires. I also don't like using after market brands for things like ignition components such as cap/rotar/wires.
I agree with mclasser they can be picky and it's worth the $30 extra.

I've also seen some aftermarket caps suffer from damp conditions where the engine will chuck because it's leaking spark.

Last edited by StevieC; 01/22/19 03:12 PM.

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Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4987680
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It's worth the $30+ for OEM.


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Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4987702
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Contacts: Brass is good. Aluminum is cheap and no good.


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Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4987736
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Agree do not use ignition parts with aluminum. Brass rules here. I made that mistake when doing tune ups back when I was a young kid and owned a E200 with a 302 engine. That aluminum distributor cap was junk!

I have no idea about OEM or the other part. Sorry.


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Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4987772
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I try to use Honda ignition parts. Recently did a cap and rotor on our 98 Accord.
I did use NGK plug wires. All good.


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Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4987785
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HondaPartsNow.com (or similar)


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Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4987823
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The Japanese have been using aluminum contacts as OEM but between the OEM Denso parts and aftermarket(from a Japanese company), OEM is made nicer and heavier.

Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4987830
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i listened to you guys, and went ahead and bought OEM. I want them before Friday, so I went to the local Honda dealer, and bought them. I was expecting to pay the $30 premium, but I brought the online seller printout with OEM numbers for refeence, and when I asked if there was a pay $100 for parts, get $10 off or something like that (I would have splurged on Honda filters to bring the total up to 100), he said no, but he'd help me out on the price, so he gave me a partial price match. It came out to 73 including tax, which amounts to about $7 more than hondapartsnow site, when shipping was included, so I'm good.

From now on, I'll bring a printout from hondapartsnow if the parts cost more than 50 or so. I've never done price match before--if online is cheaper I have just bought online, but I think I'll remember to take this printout over to my dealer next time I need to go there.


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Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: mclasser] #4987832
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Originally Posted by mclasser
Honda's can be finicky about ignition components. That's why I used OEM when I did my Accord's cap & rotor. Spend the extra $30 and be set for the next 202k miles.

Also, don't forget about the plug wires when doing a tune up.

Yep.

Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4988171
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And...I would only use the stock plugs that came with the car. I wouldn't use iridium.
Originally Posted by paulri
i listened to you guys, and went ahead and bought OEM. I want them before Friday, so I went to the local Honda dealer, and bought them. I was expecting to pay the $30 premium, but I brought the online seller printout with OEM numbers for refeence, and when I asked if there was a pay $100 for parts, get $10 off or something like that (I would have splurged on Honda filters to bring the total up to 100), he said no, but he'd help me out on the price, so he gave me a partial price match. It came out to 73 including tax, which amounts to about $7 more than hondapartsnow site, when shipping was included, so I'm good.

From now on, I'll bring a printout from hondapartsnow if the parts cost more than 50 or so. I've never done price match before--if online is cheaper I have just bought online, but I think I'll remember to take this printout over to my dealer next time I need to go there.



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Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4988218
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After you freshen your ignition's secondary hardware I hope you experience an improvement in performance of biblical proportion.

I secretly replaced cap, rotor, plugs and wires on my sister's 4.0l Jeep (Cherokee) and the difference was dramatic.

If your '98 Civic is automatic I suggest at least one drain & fill using Honda's new DW-1 fluid.

Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: paulri] #4988221
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Good call on plugs and parts. As noted, may want to consider wires too. Stick with the NGK Iridium plugs, they'll give you longer service than OE. Plug tech much improved since 1998.

Re: OEM Cap & Rotor when changing spark plugs? [Re: Sayjac] #4988299
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Yeah I went through the OEM vs. iridium question a few weeks ago, and ended up deciding to use antiseize and iridium (still NGK brand though).

Originally Posted by Sayjac
Good call on plugs and parts. As noted, may want to consider wires too. Stick with the NGK Iridium plugs, they'll give you longer service than OE. Plug tech much improved since 1998.


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