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Is Ford moving away from their 'Specialty Orange' (Dexclone) coolant? #4987590
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I know that Ford has come out with a new coolant which I believe is gold. Are they giving up on their Orange coolant which contains 2-EHA or is the gold only for certain models with the orange still being installed in most Fords?


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Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: pbm] #4987615
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I don't have the answer, but this chart shows that only some models are changing over in 2019: https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/main/quickref/coolantsEN.pdf

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Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: pbm] #4987633
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Yes, they are slowly changing to the new yellow coolant. They have not confirmed if you can convert orange to yellow yet, so it is now a 5th Motorcraft coolant for us to stock.


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Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: pbm] #4987635
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More importantly, can you just flush it out and put in the traditional cheaper green stuff?

Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: bdcardinal] #4987637
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Originally Posted by bdcardinal
Yes, they are slowly changing to the new yellow coolant. They have not confirmed if you can convert orange to yellow yet, so it is now a 5th Motorcraft coolant for us to stock.



Did they have any problems with the 'Specialty Orange'?

PS: I remember having that beer at Houston Airport....and I still have that hat.....Hope all is well.


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Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: pbm] #4987643
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Ford orange was good for some years of the PSD. What do the new PSD use?


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Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: pbm] #4987651
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Something to do when the block heater is used but don't quote me on it.


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Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: Donald] #4987662
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Originally Posted by Donald
Ford orange was good for some years of the PSD. What do the new PSD use?


Prior to 7/9/18, orange. from 7/9/18, yellow.

And no problems directly with the orange, if there were it would be way above my pay grade.


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Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: pbm] #4987755
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Any my ah Ford dealer flushed out the original gold coolant and refilled it with green coolant on a truck I used to have.


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Originally Posted by zzyzzx
More importantly, can you just flush it out and put in the traditional cheaper green stuff?


I did that in my F150, just change it every 2-3 years. I at least use good Prestone brand "green stuff'


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Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: pbm] #4987770
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If you were considering flushing it out and putting in old green, I would flush and go with G-05 instead.


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Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: pbm] #4987790
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I asked the original question (OP) because I'm getting close to changing the OE 'Specialty Orange' in my 2014 Focus and eventually in my 2016 Escape. I'll probably do a total flush with distilled water and use PGL or maybe the Pentosin A2 (P-HOAT) that I got on clearance at AZ.
I originally planned on using Dexcool but the fact that Ford is abandoning the Orange coolant is suspicious.....


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Originally Posted by pbm
Originally Posted by bdcardinal
Yes, they are slowly changing to the new yellow coolant. They have not confirmed if you can convert orange to yellow yet, so it is now a 5th Motorcraft coolant for us to stock.


Did they have any problems with the 'Specialty Orange'?


It looks like coolant sludge in the Transit heater cores.

https://ford.oemdtc.com/TSB/18-2172.pdf

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Re: Is Ford moving away from their Orange (Dexclone) coolant? [Re: edhackett] #4987814
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Did they have any problems with the 'Specialty Orange'?
[/quote]

It looks like coolant sludge in the Transit heater cores.

https://ford.oemdtc.com/TSB/18-2172.pdf

Ed[/quote]

It's strange that they recommend Prestone coolant in that Motorcraft bulletin.....especially since i"m pretty sure the Prestone Corguard contains 2-EHA...


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FWIW, it appears the new Motorcraft Yellow coolant has a substantially longer serviceable life, compared to the orange.

According to Ford, the Orange coolant has a service life of 100,000 miles initially, and then 50,000 miles thereafter, but the new Yellow has an initial service life of 200,000 miles, and then 100,000 miles thereafter.

Also, FWIW - it appears the new yellow is another type of hybrid coolant, kind of like the MC Gold (G-05) was, only a more modern formulation.

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