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M1 0w40 extended oci?? #4987053
01/21/19 10:46 PM
01/21/19 10:46 PM
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Fort Worth
Pinoak Online content OP
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Kinda confused. I thought it was an extended use oil but on another post someone said it's not and then I googled and have gotten mixed messages?
I put it in my car intending to extend. Some people said it's only about a 5k mile oil.
If it's not good for an extended oci is it good for the 10k manual calls for? I do feel like my car likes it. Seems quiet and smooth. I used Dino until about 40k for 5k ocis. Manual says 5k conversational and 10k synthetic.

Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Pinoak] #4987058
01/21/19 10:55 PM
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What vehicle, what service? This oil can run a long OCI 15-20k miles in the right application.
It can also need drained in 5k in anTGDI application.
One cannot recomend an OCI without knowing the horsepower, fuel mileage, induction method, fuel management system and sump capacity.


2018 Trd Pro 4Runner
2018 Tacoma off-road

Dealer 0w20 to M1 0w40 FS -it depends
Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Bryanccfshr] #4987065
01/21/19 11:04 PM
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I currently run 10k OCI on a twin turbo ecoboost, debating on extending it to 12k miles.

There's not a single TDGI engine on this planet that Mobil 0W40 couldn't handle 5k OCIs under normal driving condition.

Mobil 1 0w40 easily a 7-10k OCI oil in just about any vehicle.

Last edited by 209paulc; 01/21/19 11:07 PM.

2016 Ford F150 2.7L Ecoboost 61k Miles
Mobil 1 0W-40 & Archoil 9100 10k OCI

2016 Ford Fusion 1.5L Ecoboost 49k Miles
Mobil 1 AP 5w-20 20K OCI
Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Bryanccfshr] #4987098
01/21/19 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryanccfshr
What vehicle, what service? This oil can run a long OCI 15-20k miles in the right application.
It can also need drained in 5k in anTGDI application.
One cannot recomend an OCI without knowing the horsepower, fuel mileage, induction method, fuel management system and sump capacity.

Just a Toyota 1.5

Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Pinoak] #4987107
01/21/19 11:57 PM
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Year, sump mpg? Not real familiar unless you give year and make of vehicle.
Originally Posted by Pinoak
Originally Posted by Bryanccfshr
What vehicle, what service? This oil can run a long OCI 15-20k miles in the right application.
It can also need drained in 5k in anTGDI application.
One cannot recomend an OCI without knowing the horsepower, fuel mileage, induction method, fuel management system and sump capacity.

Just a Toyota 1.5


2018 Trd Pro 4Runner
2018 Tacoma off-road

Dealer 0w20 to M1 0w40 FS -it depends
Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Pinoak] #4987108
01/22/19 12:00 AM
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If your drives are short, you might want to stick to conversational oil.


1997 Maxima 197k, Castrol GTX Synblend 5W-30, FL400S
2004 Corolla 197k, VWB + SSS + Rislone cocktail, MGL51516
Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: zorobabel] #4987110
01/22/19 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by zorobabel
If your drives are short, you might want to stick to conversational oil.
It talks to you? How does that work?


2011 Toyota Prius now at 98K
1981 Mazda GLC (323) retired at 606K
1972 Subaru DL retired at 190K
1954 Chevrolet retired at 121K
Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: CR94] #4987112
01/22/19 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CR94
Originally Posted by zorobabel
If your drives are short, you might want to stick to conversational oil.
It talks to you? How does that work?

I couldn't help myself, the OP gets it; he's complaining the Castrol is giving him the silent treatment smile


1997 Maxima 197k, Castrol GTX Synblend 5W-30, FL400S
2004 Corolla 197k, VWB + SSS + Rislone cocktail, MGL51516
Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Pinoak] #4987124
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Pinoak has said in previous posts he puts on a LOT of highway miles.

I say run that schmit for 20,000 highway miles in your 1.5 Toy!!!


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Pinoak] #4987128
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Pinoak

I think you should do a solid 10,000 miles if mixed driving,
or 15,000 highway miles - then do a UOA on it


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Pinoak] #4987129
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No more than 5k on any oil, 3k in conventional. Your engine is small displacement,therefore is going under heavier revving, and more friction.

Friction = heat
heat/time= oil entropy

Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Pinoak] #4987140
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I’d be willing to bet the oil temperature design for his engine doesn’t exceed that of any other water cooled gasoline auto engine. It may run at 3,000rpms on the highway, or something, but there are worse applications running much higher Hp for example. M1 0W40 carries a lot of good specs, including MB 229.5, where the maintenance minder is set to 10,000 mi. OCI even in their 2.0T applications.


2019 Acura RDX - M1 AFE 0W20
2013 MB ML350 - M1 5W40
Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: KevD47] #4987368
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Originally Posted by KevD47
I’d be willing to bet the oil temperature design for his engine doesn’t exceed that of any other water cooled gasoline auto engine. It may run at 3,000rpms on the highway, or something, but there are worse applications running much higher Hp for example. M1 0W40 carries a lot of good specs, including MB 229.5, where the maintenance minder is set to 10,000 mi. OCI even in their 2.0T applications.

But the Mercs also have rather large sumps. Some people make blind recommendations about oils: that's a 5k, 10k oil etc., without considering sump capacity and driving conditions.


1997 Maxima 197k, Castrol GTX Synblend 5W-30, FL400S
2004 Corolla 197k, VWB + SSS + Rislone cocktail, MGL51516
Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Pinoak] #4987382
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If you drive long oci like 20-25k mile. Then its not gonna hold up. 10k miles yes

Re: M1 0w40 extended oci?? [Re: Pinoak] #4987389
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M1 0w-40 has long life ratings. 1 year or 10,000 miles on a sound non fuel diluting engine would be easy


2015 F150 2.7
2018 F350 6.2
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