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Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: Danno] #4974135
01/09/19 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

I would have a look at these.
Very quiet and good in the rain.
Oh, and close out price.


Very good deal esp since the price now includes shipping. I'd hop on those esp since the OP likes that brand already. Ranked very highly by CR.

Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: Rolla07] #4974139
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Originally Posted by Rolla07
I will probably put a set of Nokian all weathers on as my next set. Maybe consider the non all weather Nokian options they seem to be reviewed well too.


I'm running the Nokian eNTYRES on the Matrix and would think twice about getting them again. Wearing fast, noisy although I'm pleased with their traction in the white stuff. Also no warranty support from Amazon or Nokian with these. Didn't even get an email back from Nokain since Amazon told me to contact them about it. Also read some complaints about how Nokian supplied tires for reviews which were made of better quality materials than what the public receives.

Looks like I will get about 2 years/40k out of these. Previous two sets of tires usually last 4-5 years and 55k miles.

Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4974143
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Originally Posted by FordBroncoVWJeta
Hankook 737. Have them on both Jetta's 195-65-15 and 205-55-16. They seem to be great tires for the money. Rated 90,000 miles and American made.

I also had the Yokohama Avid Ascends in the 195-65-15. At 35,000 miles I took them off and sold them to a buddy that was going through a tough time. Still had (if I remember right) 5/32nds and where good tires too.


Always like reading your recommendations since you're in that line of work.

Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: HangFire] #4974145
01/09/19 12:24 PM
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Another vote for the RT43. I've got them in the same size and have no complaints. Got my local shop to price match Walmart, which at the time was $63/tire. If you're not concerned about the extra warranty, get the H-rated version.


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Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: SatinSilver] #4974182
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Originally Posted by SatinSilver
Also no warranty support from Amazon or Nokian with these. Didn't even get an email back from Nokain since Amazon told me to contact them about it.


Spoke too soon of course. Just received a reply back from them that sounds pretty good. They said once they're down to 2mm of tread left to stop in at an authorized retailer to consider warranty coverage. DT is an authorized retailer so we will see how that goes. But at least I heard back.

Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: HangFire] #4974200
01/09/19 01:31 PM
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RT43, Defender T+H, or another set of Contis. It's a Corolla, it needs nothing special. Yokohama Avid Ascends or the Pirelli P4 are worthy contenders.

Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: HangFire] #4974324
01/09/19 03:48 PM
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Michelin CrossClimate+ if you want a no-compromise tire but pricey. It has the best combination of handling, wet & dry braking, and hydroplaning resistance. Look at the TireRack and CR reviews. Otherwise RT43, Michelin Defender T+H. The Defender T+H will cost around the same as the RT 43 after rebates.

Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: HangFire] #4974618
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The Continental TrueContacts 195/65R15 on my '05 Corolla LE are good to excellent in all ways except treadwear. The 90k mile warranty is a joke. Apart from that the TrueContacts have no weak points. They are T-rated and neither sporty nor squishy. Excellent dry traction, very good wet and snow traction (for an all-season), comfy ride though just a hint of vibration at times, good fuel economy. If you run winter tires and only use them for three seasons, they may last you a long time. But count on closer to 50k miles than 90k....


2005 Corolla LE, 1.8L
QSGB 5w-30
Continental TrueContact 195/65R15


Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: HangFire] #4974645
01/09/19 10:08 PM
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Thanks to everyone who responded. I had a big long response composed, then my browser decided to dump it. So I'll summarize.....

Tramlining is the tendency for tires to follow grooves, ridges, or other features in the road.

Now I have more research to do. The TrueContacts (all 3 of them, Tour * 2 speeds, and non-Tour) and the Cooper CS5 (both of them, Ultra and Grand) look like front runners.

I didn't even know Hankook made tires in the USA. I'll take a look at that 737, too. (Hmm... no 737 or H737 on tirerack, but their reviewers are not kind to the Kinergy GT). Can't find much in H737 reviews elsewhere.

Heck, I'll look at all the tires mentioned here. Almost all. I want the option of not using the winter tires, especially as they are getting worn and the budget is tight, so I do want to stick with All Seasons. I'll pay for quality, but just not for a name.

I figure I can buy now on closeout, or in 3 months with a rebate. I'll post what/when I get. Until then I'll review any more recommendations.


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Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: HangFire] #4974664
01/09/19 10:33 PM
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This is the Hankook "H737" which succeeded the H727. It's really the Kinergy PT. Confusing naming. And yes, made in USA. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Kinergy+PT


2005 Corolla LE, 1.8L
QSGB 5w-30
Continental TrueContact 195/65R15


Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: HangFire] #4974694
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Hankook's US factory is relatively new. I think it only opened up last year, and Kumho opened up a factory in Georgia last spring USA

IF you want to stop using separate tires for the winter, at least get an all-season with the 3-peak sign, such as:
Vredestein Quatrac 5
Nokian WRG4
Toyo Celsius
Michelin CrossClimate+
Goodyear Weatherready

Regular all-season tires won't be anywhere near as good in the snow and winter, especially for someone coming from dedicated winter tires.

Tires in your size don't cost that much, and since you already have the wheels, you might as well keep using snows. The biggest hurdle to using winter tires is acquiring the second set of wheels smile

Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: HangFire] #4974761
01/10/19 04:01 AM
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I loved my Pirelli P4 on my 2004 Altima 2.5. For this car, they may have been the best tire I have ever owned. I just loved'em and I've said it before in old posts.

They wore like iron, cornered very well for a T speed rated tire, tracked nice & straight on the hiwy, were quiet & smooth, they had great hydroplaning resistance in torrential downpours and went through the snow very well for an all season tire. I just lovd'em...on this car!

Now, will they perform the same on every car? Probably not!

I actually liked the P4's on the Altima better than the Pirelli P7's on the Mazda 3(apples & oranges???). Although the P7's were a good tire as well, there was just something about the P4's that changed the feel(to my liking) of the car. Neither P4 or P7 come in all sizes so, you gotta pick what fits. I'm going with the P7's on this current Altima.

Although Pirelli P4 & P7 get hit hard for their lack of wet traction(TR & CR testing) but, I never noticed and we drive in everything(4 seasons). But, we drive responsibly and not like idiots.

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Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: faramir9] #4976304
01/11/19 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by faramir9
This is the Hankook "H737" which succeeded the H727. It's really the Kinergy PT. Confusing naming. And yes, made in USA. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Kinergy+PT

Ah I see. Only 14 reviews but all good, of course at least one useless review ("they arrived today" review marked 1,000 miles). But several mentions of quiet and rain traction. That rings my bell. If I can get a bargain, I might give them a try. I research all my tire purchases, but I'm willing to take more of a risk on trying something new on the Corolla's little 15" wheels, then the truck or the Pilot.

I'm still a bit miffed about the Michelin Primacy MXV4 that was the tire previous to the Conti's on this car. Still thinking about giving Michelin another time-out for that one. Not the worst tire, but a lot of money for a so-so tire, that got noisy and lost rain traction much sooner than I thought a premium tire should.

I see Hankook had a rebate in March of last year, is that a regular thing?


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Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: HangFire] #4976315
01/11/19 05:35 PM
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The problem with online tire reviews:

https://www.consumerreports.org/products/all-season-tire/hankook-kinergy-pt-394437/overview/

CR/V's OEM tires were Kinergy GT's, not Kinergy PT's. While this guy has a right to rage, he did it in the wrong place. It makes sorting through choices hard.


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Re: Options for Corolla 195/65-15 [Re: HangFire] #4976460
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Michelin Defenders +1
Had them on a Corolla and loved them. Really quiet and good in the rain.


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