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Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? #4976082 01/11/19 01:35 PM
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Me: 1977 MGB. Love/Hate relationship

Learned how to drive a stick, beautiful engine.....electronics from [censored]. Got shocked when putting car into OD via a silly button on stick shift.

Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976093 01/11/19 01:44 PM
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86 Dodge D50 pickup. Made by Mitsubishi for Dodge. Truck was cursed! Frame broke,body mounts broke,3 transmissions under warranty, 2 out of warranty,Ripped CV boots, Leaked oil from rear main and transfercase, needed a valve job @ 35K,The crankshaft broke @ 44k. Oh and the carburetor caught on fire which burned the paint off the hood.

I parked it after that. My dad wanted to drive it so we put a engine, trans and transfercase from a low mileage wreck in it. My dad double gasketed the oil filter a few weeks later and burned that engine up.


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87 F250 Valvoline 15w40
07 fjcruiser Car lube plus 10w30
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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Chris142] #4976097 01/11/19 01:46 PM
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Lord I always thought these Mitsu trucks were decent like the Chevy Luv and Ford Courier

Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976099 01/11/19 01:47 PM
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1995 BMW 525i or 1995 Camaro z28, equally terrible


Cars I maintain:
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05 Honda Accord V6-Maxlife 5w30
13 Lexus RX350 AWD-M1 AFE 0w20
02 Toyota Tundra 4x4 M1 5w30
Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976103 01/11/19 01:49 PM
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My Pontiac 6000 was always in need of something and liked to turn on the SES light if I idled too long. I chased that ghost problem and could never figure it out. It had the 4-Tech engine in it.

The other unreliable car I owned was an Austin Mini. That was British engineering at its finest, I leave it there. LOL

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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976104 01/11/19 01:51 PM
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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976106 01/11/19 01:53 PM
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For new car:

1986 (IIRC) Ford Tempo was the worst new car ever. Ford had a warranty program that would fix anything taken to dealer after the first repair. Found out all sorts of different things could break once. Caught fire while trying to cross the Ambassador Bridge and get back into the U.S.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976113 01/11/19 02:07 PM
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Ford Bronco II, 1989. Starting at about 50,000 miles, it was nothing but major repairs. Absolutely awful vehicle, but fun as can be to drive and returned excellent MPG.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976117 01/11/19 02:10 PM
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1985 Ford Ranger with the 2.8 V6.

It never ran right when cold. Had it in to the dealer a few times early on for this. They couldn’t find a problem. ECU went out in the first year, covered under warranty. Four years later it went out again. $500 for a new one.

Every six months or so a headlight went out. Eventually I kept a spare on hand.

One very cold night at work (well below zero F) the ECU went out again. Had it towed home at 3am and then to the dealer who put yet another unit in. Two weeks later it died again. That was it.

I had the patience of Job with this truck.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976132 01/11/19 02:22 PM
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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976138 01/11/19 02:25 PM
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1976 Ford Pinto wagon. Bought it new/. A total disaster. Nuts missing on the bolts that held the rear leaf springs to the frame. Rear end self destructed at about 8000 miles. Entire TOP of the radiator blew off in a catastrophic steam explosion at speed. (As far as dealer could tell, the top of the radiator had never been soldered on, just held on with the paint and some goop. NEVER bought another Ford, never will.


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2017 VW Golf All Track 1.8 liter gas engine DI, 24,500 miles Castrol Professional VW 505 5W-40
Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976145 01/11/19 02:28 PM
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I've never really had a majorly unreliable vehicle shrug

If I had to pick one it would probably be the very high mile 2000 328i we picked up for my wife. But it was an "as is" purchase that needed a few things and was eventually sorted.

Worst car was a 1986 Old Custom Cruiser wagon that was my parent's hand-me-down. It had a gutless 307 backed by a tranny that would shift late cold and insanely early once hot. When it was cold, the door latches would freeze and then the doors wouldn't close.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: csandste] #4976178 01/11/19 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by csandste
For new car:

1986 (IIRC) Ford Tempo was the worst new car ever. Ford had a warranty program that would fix anything taken to dealer after the first repair. Found out all sorts of different things could break once. Caught fire while trying to cross the Ambassador Bridge and get back into the U.S.

My mom had an ‘81 Lynx (Mercury Escort) for a while that liked eating ignition switches-had it fixed at the local L-M dealer-again, and again, and again... They got tired of putting free ignition switches in it! My vote for most unreliable has to be any Escort, Lynx, or Tracer that had a FORD 4 cylinder engine in it-between lunching timing belts, bending valves, even cracking blocks due to losing the timing belt at speed on the interstate, and dropping valve seats out of their GARBAGE cylinder heads!


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1969 Fiat 124 Spyder, radiator core was steel, not copper or brass, electrical system nightmare, fun to drive, handled and cornered really well because of the wide base.

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94 Ford Explorer . Junk in every way possible .

Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976190 01/11/19 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Speak2Mountain
Lord I always thought these Mitsu trucks were decent like the Chevy Luv and Ford Courier

I still hate Mitsubishi vehicles to this day.


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A lot of '80s Fords here. I had an '87 Ranger I bought new that was the biggest POS ever. Never ran right and had electrical and assembly related issues. I swore off Ford after that for 29 years. Now I have 3 Mustangs in the household. How times change.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: JLawrence08648] #4976193 01/11/19 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JLawrence08648
1969 Fiat 124 Spyder, radiator core was steel, not copper or brass, electrical system nightmare, fun to drive, handled and cornered really well because of the wide base.


Forgot about my '69 Fiat 124 Coupe. Had some ongoing malady occurring at about 18,000 miles and asked the service writer "is this normal at 18,000?" His answer, "Don't know, never had anyone keep keep it that long". Traded it in on a Renault R16. What was I thinking?

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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976204 01/11/19 03:20 PM
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1976 Dodge Aspen, 2 door, 318, auto

Bought with 83,000

Ran OK for 2-3 months, then Electrical problems almost daily. Sometimes sparks would shower down over my feet when driving over a bump.

4 months after buying, the engine loses compression due to bad exhaust valves - but still run (barely)

Then 3rd gear dies in the trans, so it was just a "town car only" for 2 months - then the rear end exploded!

The only car I ever owned where it was "all done" by the time it was "DONE".... nothing was worth fixing on it anymore.


Then................

Mitsubishi Eclipse. Pure garbage.

Mitsubishi = NOT Honda or Toyota quality, AT ALL!!!!!!!!

Worst cars to ever come out of Japan, period.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976206 01/11/19 03:21 PM
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'85 Olds Calais 3.0. Bought it from an Olds dealer mechanic with just 24,000 miles on the clock in 1990. What a miserable POS.


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2018 Mustang Ecoboost
Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976212 01/11/19 03:25 PM
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Owned Jeep>VW>Honda>Subaru>Acura>VW.

The worst I guess was our 2005 Subaru Legacy GT wagon (turbo) I guess because between 150k - 200k miles did things like need:
* valve job because one burned ($3000)
* throw out bearing
* bunch of wheel bearings
* power steering rack
* alternator
* dire need of rear driveshaft
* leaked oil like crazy out of all sorts of tubes and hoses

All my other cars acted up past the 200k mark and put to pasture when AC broke.

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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976214 01/11/19 03:27 PM
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81 Volvo 245DL.
Despite being basic, it was riddled with issues. Mostly from poor craftsmanship.

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Worst car was a 1986 Old Custom Cruiser wagon ..... When it was cold, the door latches would freeze and then the doors wouldn't close.

Yup, my Volvo did that too.
Nothing worse on a cold prairie morning mad


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976217 01/11/19 03:32 PM
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Every Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth I've ever owned(5) from '73-'97. Just different levels of unreliability.
However, I did in fact enjoy driving every one.

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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Boomer] #4976220 01/11/19 03:32 PM
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Ppl wonder why America-loving Americans started buying [censored] cars.

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I'll get shot for this, but...

Our 88 Jeep Cherokee. Before anyone gets testy about it, yes it was a great purpose built vehicle, and the straight six would run forever. That being said... I spent more time wrenching on it than any other vehicle I owned.

It was a total mish mash of parts sourced from wherever, and while it was technically a Chrysler product by then, most everything was marked AMC.

It had the Renix fuel injection system that more or less gave no codes (everything was troubleshooting with a multi-meter). By the time I sold it, parts were becoming more of an issue (this system was only used on 87-90 4.0 Cherokees). On the flip side, I learned an awful lot about how fuel injection worked, since you had to understand what was going on in order to troubleshoot anything...)

The cooling system was a pressurized overflow bottle system and the bottles and caps were terrible, (Starting in 91, Cherokee's did away with this system, and I retrofitted mine).

In the end, it always seemed like about every 3500-5000 miles, something needed attention. Was happy to sell it at the end... It was becoming the epitome of JEEP - Just Empty Every Pocket...


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2004 Audi A6. That thing was a turd. Electrical issues, weak transmission, the engine leaked oil from every place possible. It turned me off from that brand for a long time.



Most reliable vehicle I've owned is my 1997 Grand Cherokee. That thing was a tank, although the sagging headliner drove me nuts.

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99 S-10 4cyl auto.

Trans rebuild, head gasket, and cracked exhaust manifold before 65k miles. mad

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Originally Posted by Speak2Mountain
Ppl wonder why America-loving Americans started buying [censored] cars.


Japanese cars were junk back then too, they were just lucky enough to not sell many here!


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2007 Trailblazer I6 just due to a lot of small problems... then one big one.

Water pump, front hub and fuel level sending unit before 30k miles.

Before 100k miles:

3 ignition switches
evap solenoid
fan clutch
motor mounts
hvac thermistor thingy-doodad
dash light bulbs
CD player
driver's side door switch assembly
both inside door handles broken


At 149k used 3 quarts of PP in 3000 miles and spun a rod bearing.


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1980 Ford Fiesta. Really, the only unreliable vehicle I’ve ever owned. Pushed that thing more than I drove it.


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86 Black Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
I custom ordered. When I was backing it out of the dealership garage, a Bird released a stream from Bumper to Bumper. The got a big laugh from the wash guy, and he had me pull it in and washed it again.
Little did I know it was an omen.

Back the same day, total AC failure. Had second one at 35K
Month later they had to tow it in with the first of many ignition module failures.
Back Pressure EGR valves were fond of failing.
Cruise control started sucking the throttle to the floor at random intervals.
2 alternator failures.
Trunk light switch was failing and working the alternator hard recharging the battery. It was driven every day so it always started.
Finally fixed the ignition module failures by replacing everything in distributor, cap rotor plug wires and plug. But carried spare ignition module, and tools in trunk.
Ran poorly in the rain, fixed by using stablant 22A on all connections.
Window regulator broke.

In 70K miles.
Glad to see it go.
My last NEW car.

Rod

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Yugo 1.3 55hp. year of manufacture: 1985. I drove it 8 years (I bought it 2001)

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1988 Ford Ranger base model 4 cylinder, 5 speed and power nothing. Bought it for a bare bones reliable driver but it didnt work out that way. Ignition problems, steering column problems, catalytic convertor problem and finally the engine at about 40K miles needed major work.

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1999 Audi A6 i have had some junk vehicles but i have never had one where the spark plug comes out when driving it ?

then a bunch of other little stuff. I was in Florida wife said that she is selling it and we got a 2004 Honda Accord. Put 300k on that v6


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1990 Dodge Spirit ES with the Mitsu 3.0V6 and A604 4 speed trans. Nice looking car (white with the the white snowflake wheels) but the trans and motor were junk. Multiple trans rebuilds under the 7/70 warranty (I even took Chrysler to court after the 4th rebuild in less than 80,000 miles and won) and the V6 leaked oil like crazy after 60,000 miles. I actually miss that car since it was quiet, a good highway cruiser with a lot of room and the gas mileage was pretty decent. But I vowed never to buy another Chrysler vehicle again after the court case.


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Originally Posted by Speak2Mountain
Lord I always thought these Mitsu trucks were decent like the Chevy Luv and Ford Courier



courier was a mazda


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1990 Dodge Spirit ES with the Mitsu 3.0V6 and A604 4 speed trans. Nice looking car (white with the the white snowflake wheels) but the trans and motor were junk. Multiple trans rebuilds under the 7/70 warranty (I even took Chrysler to court after the 4th rebuild in less than 80,000 miles and won) and the V6 leaked oil like crazy after 60,000 miles. I actually miss that car since it was quiet, a good highway cruiser with a lot of room and the gas mileage was pretty decent. But I vowed never to buy another Chrysler vehicle again after the court case.

Thats 2 of us that had Mitsubishi trouble!


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976325 01/11/19 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Speak2Mountain
Lord I always thought these Mitsu trucks were decent like the Chevy Luv and Ford Courier

Isuzu did build some long lasting engines in the Luv. I dont know enough about the Courier other than I'm sure it was better than my D50.


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My first vehicle, a 1996 GMC Sierra. My parents bought it used in 1998 and I drove it all through high school and college and then gave it back to my parents after graduation. It seemed to go through a lot of alternators, fuel pumps, and the little circuit board holding the bulbs for the tail lights but a least all the repairs over the years were cheap and easy to fix stuff. It made it to 300K miles though before someone wrecked into my dad.


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Ford got off to an early lead in the crap car derby, but it looks like GM is catching up.


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86 Chevrolet Spectrum, made by Isuzu. Bought it new. Chassis was built like a $19 toaster oven. Guzzled oil from day 1. Total garbage.

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Ford replaced a $99 a/c valve with a $400 valve and a/c line hose assembly. The hose assembly had flex joints that leaked refrigerant like a sieve. Thank you, Ford. I spent > $1500 on major repairs (not counting tires and maintenance) every year I owned it for a decade. Every year I thought to myself "I'll get my money out of it now for a year or two and then trade it in" and then I'd spend the trade-in money on the next major repair.

Remember, this was a "Quality is job 1" model year car. Ford, never again.

Friend of mine has an F150, blew a spark plug out of the V8 engine while driving home. He still defends Fords. WHY?


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976437 01/11/19 07:48 PM
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It was a charming vehicle but all the problems we inherited were comical, the issues developed faster than i could fix them, it only lasted another 6 months:

not counting regular maintenance:
Both front window regulators broken
Air conditioner didn't work
hazard light button fell through the dash
throttle body going into limp mode - replaced by me
crank position sensor caused no starts - replace by me
thermostat stuck open - replaced by me
engine mounts shot vibrated like crazy - replaced by me
leaking oil out the valve cover gasket
burning oil
exhaust fell off while driving
all the subframe bushings were shot
vacuum hose issues
alarm would go off in the middle of the night until i cut the alarm
coolant leak out some three way valve
the engine overheated when it ran out of coolant before the part arrived in the mail, that might have been a blessing


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Still for all their faults they were some of the coolest and best running cars (when they were running right) I ever owned and had the best interiors and gauges. A tool box in the trunk with a few spares was almost mandatory.


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2007 Pontiac torrent. Loads of electrical problems. 36100 miles it ate two injectors and some coil packs. Button to open the electric latch on the rear hatch broke making for a fun time to get the hatch open to replace it. Rear wiper motor died and I had to cut out the old one it rusted up so bad. Wiring harness in the driver doors fell to pieces and had to be spliced back together. Switch in the gear shift went bad intermittently locking the keys in the ignition. Every wheel bearing starting at 40k to 80k. Kept shorting out cells in multiple batteries for some reason regardless of brand. Windshield washer pump issues. I think maybe a turn signal issue also. Wheels that were difficult to keep ballaced and collected lots of gravel dust that chunked off when you went through a car wash making you have to take them off and clean them constantly. I am sure there were more issues I have forgot about.

It was the easiest vehicle to change the oil on though. Didn’t have to put it on ramps if you didn’t want to.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: justintendo] #4976491 01/11/19 08:55 PM
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Lord I always thought these Mitsu trucks were decent like the Chevy Luv and Ford Courier



courier was a mazda


and the luv was an isuzu

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Lord I always thought these Mitsu trucks were decent like the Chevy Luv and Ford Courier

Isuzu did build some long lasting engines in the Luv. I dont know enough about the Courier other than I'm sure it was better than my D50.


The first s10s had a 1.9 from isuzu and a diesel too!

sad to say this but my wife and I have 2nd gen priusses that are getting annoying:

--Wheel lugs vibrated loose after being tight (with a torque wrench and calibrated arm) and untouched for months.
--12v battery went kablooey without warning. Car started but then stalled out a mile down the road. I cleared its code, something about the inverter/transmission, and drove it home. Both our cars have scan tools in the glove box now.
-- coil pack went bad. Ran on 3 cylinders for a few seconds then it shut down the gas engine. Had about a mile of electric only. Replaced pack, cleared code, back on the road. Carry coil packs now all the time too.

I've had other cars that are more maintenance-intensive, cars that are more expensive to keep up. But "unreliable" means to me that I might randomly get stuck on the side of the road, a far less acceptable situation that ordering parts and fixing an issue a week after diagnosis.

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My 1984 Fiero 2M4. I've had lots and lots of turds over the years, but that one takes the cake.

It NEVER ran at the right temperature. I could purge air all day long, change stats, clean radiator fins, anything. It either ran too cold in the winter or too hot in the summer.

It got awful mileage for a car that weighs what it does. That Iron Duke might be tough, but it's terrible on fuel.

It started on fire twice. Once was electrical, once when a rod flew through the block and the oil hit the cat.

Fuel pump failed.

None of the gauges worked right. Ever.

It handled like the Kool-Aid man on skis. Downright scary. Yes, I drove it in MN winters.

The heat was a joke. An absolute joke. There was hot air, usually, but the airflow was so weak that there might as well have been no climate control at all.

When it was really hot the TBI would boil and cause a hard hot-restart if you tried to run in to the store quick. You'd have to sit for 15-20 minutes with the hatch open and the air cleaner lid off to get it going.

There were apparently no baffles in the fuel tank, because when it was below 1/4 tank and you took a cloverleaf too fast it would stall out half way through the turn.

I can't believe I had that car as long as I did. And put many miles on it. Not one of them was memorable or pleasant.


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1999 Audi A6 i have had some junk vehicles but i have never had one where the spark plug comes out when driving it ?


That was the first generation of automatic cylinder deactivation. wink I haven't had a bad car because I make good choices and because I am lucky. Alas, I may regret gloating very soon!

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I found my comment from a similar post a few years ago, so I'll just paste it below. Add to the list that it needed front wheel bearings.

2004 VW Beetle TDI w/DSG transmission - Owned for 16 months from 158k-176k (sat in garage for 4 months in the end) - I'll also post the previous repairs that my aunt had, she bought it new and had it meticulously maintained at the dealer. (A good dealer). Some of the repairs I did or had done as well.

-Multiple seat belt sensors, caused airbag light to come on periodically
-Engine coolant temp sensor
-Glow plugs replaced under recall
-High pressure fuel pump replaced under recall (and leaked afterwards)
-Thermostat
~6 CV boots torn
~7 windshields
~6 headlight bulbs
-Windshield washer bottle broke at about 80k miles
-Was on it's 3rd alternator
-Starter replaced
-Lower control arm bushings and upper strut mounts replaced
-Large engine cooling fan died & replaced
-High pressure A/C hose broke off
-Ate a battery every 2 years religiously, last battery made it 8 months though.
-Was on it's 3rd dual mass flywheel (still chattered!)
-Transmission was failing, specifically the mechatronics unit. It CRUNCHED like crazy, and when I say crunch, I mean CRUNCH. It also slipped pretty bad when taking off from a light
-Motor mount replaced
-Camshaft was worn out
-Turbo actuator set check engine light, was able to be cleared. If it stayed on, entire turbo would have had to be replaced
-Airbag light came on, was also able to be cleared. If it stayed on, the leather on the passenger seat would have had to be removed to replace the sensor in the seat.
-Fuse box melted on top of battery
-Door panels completely broke apart. Had to glue and rivet them together ($1000 a piece new)
-Volume knob on stereo failing, left alone ($1,000 for a new one)
-Door speakers quit working. Cost me over $300 for new ones and I rivetted them in myself.
-Tie rods had some play in them, replaced myself with Moogs
-A/C compressor was very very loud in the end and needed replacement
-Blower motor was also very loud
-Seats didn't fold forward 50% of the time
-Sunroof was getting stuck so I quit using it
-I'm sure I'm forgetting lots of stuff. It also rattled like you wouldn't believe

My Jeep is also a trouble maker. But I forgive it because a lot of it's issues are because the parts are original and 23 years old. Like the original starter is cranking slow. I can't be mad at that. When the VW's starter totally failed, it was like 6 years old.


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1999 Wrangler Sahara
1995 318ti Club Sport

Wife's:
2015 X1 xDrive28i M Sport


Son's
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I forget the year it was a long time ago. The late 80's early 90's door sagging, plastic rattling, head gasket blowing, seat held up with phone book, constantly broke POS Ford Thunderbird.


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A 70 Corvette with an LS6 from a Chevelle and my 68 L36 Roadster. Biiiiig money pits.
The 70 got 4 to maybe 6 mpg.


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88 Ford Bronco. Love/hate relationship. Underpowered, unreliable, great off road.
Have a 01 F150 4x4 now. I guess I’ll never learn.... This time it’s my last Ford!

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2013 Nissan Juke Nismo 80k
2000 Honda S2000 183k
1998 BMW 328i 170k
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For new car:

1986 (IIRC) Ford Tempo was the worst new car ever. Ford had a warranty program that would fix anything taken to dealer after the first repair. Found out all sorts of different things could break once. Caught fire while trying to cross the Ambassador Bridge and get back into the U.S.

My mom had an ‘81 Lynx (Mercury Escort) for a while that liked eating ignition switches-had it fixed at the local L-M dealer-again, and again, and again... They got tired of putting free ignition switches in it! My vote for most unreliable has to be any Escort, Lynx, or Tracer that had a FORD 4 cylinder engine in it-between lunching timing belts, bending valves, even cracking blocks due to losing the timing belt at speed on the interstate, and dropping valve seats out of their GARBAGE cylinder heads!


I don’t know I had a 2000 Escort ZX2 with the 2.0 Zetec and manual trans. I owned it I think 7 years and got it with 114k on it, put another 70-80k on it before selling when the water pump started leaking and I didn’t want to deal with it. I’ll be darned though if the thing just ran and ran on my long commute. It seized a pulley once and threw the belt but I still made it home. Other than that it was tires and oil and a rusted muffler in that time. Oh and the AC evaporator too.


2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4.7L (wife’s) PUP & FU
2002 Ford Taurus 24V M1HM & M1EP
2001 Dodge Ram 1500 5.9L 4x4 10w-30 RP & FU
1993 Yamaha FZR 600
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1982 Ford Escort. Total piece of crap.

My 1983 LTD was built just as wonderfully. Paint that oxidized within two years, for starters, not to mention the great early 1980s overall build quality. That wonderful B&S style power, not to mention the torque of a riding lawn mower. Oil consumption issues all the time. Wet noodle steering from the factory despite rack and pinion steering. I could go on.


Plain, simple Garak.

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2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T (current)


Sorry, i thought this was "most reliable". The two above were and have been that.

The most unreliable was a 1990 VW Corrado G60


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Yah-Tah-Hey] #4976817 01/12/19 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Yah-Tah-Hey
66 Dodge Dart V8 special ordered with disc brakes and four on the floor. Hamtramck POS junk.


Hammtramck is like the walking dead if you ever go through there. Very run down, waist high weeds everywhere. lots of shootings. Don't recommend a visit there during day even


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01 Sable LS Wagon 163,000 mi
02 Montero 191,000 mi
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My 1984 Fiero 2M4. I've had lots and lots of turds over the years, but that one takes the cake.

It NEVER ran at the right temperature. I could purge air all day long, change stats, clean radiator fins, anything. It either ran too cold in the winter or too hot in the summer.

It got awful mileage for a car that weighs what it does. That Iron Duke might be tough, but it's terrible on fuel.

It started on fire twice. Once was electrical, once when a rod flew through the block and the oil hit the cat.

Fuel pump failed.

None of the gauges worked right. Ever.

It handled like the Kool-Aid man on skis. Downright scary. Yes, I drove it in MN winters.

The heat was a joke. An absolute joke. There was hot air, usually, but the airflow was so weak that there might as well have been no climate control at all.

When it was really hot the TBI would boil and cause a hard hot-restart if you tried to run in to the store quick. You'd have to sit for 15-20 minutes with the hatch open and the air cleaner lid off to get it going.

There were apparently no baffles in the fuel tank, because when it was below 1/4 tank and you took a cloverleaf too fast it would stall out half way through the turn.

I can't believe I had that car as long as I did. And put many miles on it. Not one of them was memorable or pleasant.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4976881 01/12/19 11:09 AM
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Here's surely an unreliable vehicle that I'd LIKE to buy....just for the challenge.
There's a '71 Land Rover a couple of miles from me that's been parked for 20+ years. It belongs to a lawyer who I went to high school with and he has no wrenching skills whatsoever. Matter of fact, he doesn't even live in the area.
I talked to his dad about it 15+ years ago and the dad said he'd never sell it. I talked to the lawyer 10+ years ago and he said it had the rare "overdrive" unit on it....but he said he doesn't want to sell it.
So there it sits....

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Originally Posted by Garak

My 1983 LTD was built just as wonderfully. Paint that oxidized within two years, for starters, not to mention the great early 1980s overall build quality. That wonderful B&S style power, not to mention the torque of a riding lawn mower. Oil consumption issues all the time. Wet noodle steering from the factory despite rack and pinion steering. I could go on.


In 1994 I bought a 1984 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe(manual) to run as a work beater to keep the miles off my E24 M6. The Turbo Coupe wasn't terribly unreliable, but there were a couple of problems I didn't expect- the power window switch caught fire once and another time the injectors began to leak- shooting fuel all over the engine compartment. Oh yeah, you also had to replace the auxiliary clutch cable(a five minute job) at least every 10k miles to avoid performing the procedure on the side of the road.That said, it was a lot of fun to drive; I sold it to the son of a friend, who still has it and has kept it in remarkably good condition.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Trav] #4976886 01/12/19 11:14 AM
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Some of the old English cars with positive ground Lucas electrics.


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My first car was the least "reliable". In 1962 bought a 1956 Chevrolet 150 2-door post. Found it on a small-town Texas used cart lot sitting there sprayed primer black. Paid $250. I was thirteen and just got my driver's license. Car had V8 with two four-barrel carburetors. Turned it into a 1960's street gasser just like everybody else. Gotta say it was not very reliable but all the work it took to keep it running taught me everything it took to get me started with cars and the people associated with them. Do it again in a heartbeat.

ETA: Like this one
ETA 2: Engine did not have an oil filter at all, none

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Notice that most of the comments here refer to 70’s and 80’s era vehicles. One of the worst times to buy a car.


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All of the three GMs I’ve owned, two from new and one I got with 30,000 miles.

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Originally Posted by MCompact
In 1994 I bought a 1984 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe(manual) to run as a work beater to keep the miles off my E24 M6. The Turbo Coupe wasn't terribly unreliable, but there were a couple of problems I didn't expect- the power window switch caught fire once and another time the injectors began to leak- shooting fuel all over the engine compartment. Oh yeah, you also had to replace the auxiliary clutch cable(a five minute job) at least every 10k miles to avoid performing the procedure on the side of the road.That said, it was a lot of fun to drive; I sold it to the son of a friend, who still has it and has kept it in remarkably good condition.

I had LPG, so had my own set of fuel issues, notably being an unreliable fuel gauge and having ot pay attention to miles. Fortunately, there were no power options in the LTD, aside from the AM radio, not even power trunk, so electric failures were never its weakness, aside from the electric engine fan.


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1999 Dodge Neon DOHC - traded at ~80k miles at serious loss because it needed major repairs. $800 trade in value, needed ~$3800 in repairs.

- Headgasket leaking.
- Exhaust manifold cracked (only noisy when cold).
- Tail lights filled with water when it rained.
- Would not stay running on a cold start, would have to idle for 4-5 minutes on a 50 degree ambient start then would have to be gentle with throttle inputs to not have it stall.
- Frameless windows would not seal properly and leaked water and wind.

That was a definite throwaway car, it was a hoot to drive but it was made during one of the many dark periods of Chrysler. I wanted a Neon so bad during those days, the "Hi" commercials trapped me and the glow in the dark key was such a novelty.


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I've only had two bad cars, and it wasn't really the car's fault, it's just that by the time I bought them used, they had high miles, were in poor shape and almost ready for the junkyard.

The first was a 1999 Ford Explorer that my brother in law gave to me for free. If I didn't take it, he was going to junk it, so that should tell you something about its condition. I started to fix it up, then realized it would've taken too much money to fix all of its issues, so I parted it out and scrapped it. I drove it probably a total of 50 miles before it blew an intake gasket and puked coolant everywhere. That was the final nail in the coffin.

The second was my 2004 Honda CR-V. I bought it used a year and a half ago with 155k miles. I didn't realize it came from New Hampshire and apparently the stuff they use on the roads in the winter is way worse than what they use down here because that car had rust way worse than any 2004 from here. My fault for not inspecting it closer when buying it. The front subframe wasn't even bolted to the body in one corner because the mount was totally rotted away. shocked2 Car still drove fine though. I had to sink over $1500 in parts in the short time I had it, and it still had more issues I hadn't fixed yet. I was going to sell it in the spring, but luckily it got totaled last week and insurance paid me more than what I originally paid for it, and more than what I could've sold it for myself. I really liked the car though, and would've kept it a long time if it was in better condition (and hadn't gotten totaled).


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-Power mirrors were non-functional when I bought it at 99,000. Dealer spent 2 days on it, could not even identify the fuse that was blown. Turns out the switch contacts fell apart internally and short circuited the power supply, hence the blown fuse.
-Ate the front ball joint
-Odometer fluorescent display started intermittently failing, finally failed so it was only readable at night or if you covered up the daylight sensor.
-Driver's door speaker failed twice. First was because the wiring harness corroded, and I noticed the headlight reminder didn't work anymore, since the chimes only come through the left front speaker. Fixed the wiring harness, but a week later the speaker itself failed.
-Intermittent check engine light and "Service Stabilitrak" messages until I figured out the IAT harness wasn't making good contact. Reseated the connector, problem went away.
-Random "Service Stabilitrak" messages when it got below 10 degrees F.
-Rear brake pad separated from the backing plate and started grinding the rear rotor, needed an emergency brake pad replacement in the middle of winter.
-Rear shock tore the rubber out of the upper mount.
-Intermittent power window switches that often left you with a window stuck down
-Keyless entry fob died completely
-Air conditioning leaked refrigerant
-Set a check engine light for an evap leak. After ruling out the gas cap and the purge valve up at the engine, it was looking like it was going to require dropping the gas tank to get to the vent valve on top of the gas tank. Was mulling that over until..
-A week after the EVAP leak, check engine light came on for camshaft position errors. The problem I was dreading after finding out the GM 3.6 V6 was notorious for wearing out timing chains. No way was I going to spend $3000 to pull the engine and have the timing chains replaced, it had 170,000 by then and it was going to have to pass e-check soon to renew the registration.

In the 4 years I had it, it was rather disappointing that it had so many electrical problems. Sad that my MG Midget, with the infamous Lucas electrical system, was trouble free compared to the Traverse. There's a certain irony in having to drive a temperamental British sports car to get parts to fix the daily driver.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: OVERKILL] #4978131 01/13/19 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
I've never really had a majorly unreliable vehicle shrug


Same with me. All my V8 vehicles [Impala,Caprice,Tahoe,Silverado,Cadillac,Town Car and Crown Victoria] were just fine. All vehicles were serviced regularly. Never owned a 4 or 6 banger and have no plans to own one.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Aero540T] #4978478 01/13/19 11:40 PM
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For new car:

1986 (IIRC) Ford Tempo was the worst new car ever. Ford had a warranty program that would fix anything taken to dealer after the first repair. Found out all sorts of different things could break once. Caught fire while trying to cross the Ambassador Bridge and get back into the U.S.

My mom had an ‘81 Lynx (Mercury Escort) for a while that liked eating ignition switches-had it fixed at the local L-M dealer-again, and again, and again... They got tired of putting free ignition switches in it! My vote for most unreliable has to be any Escort, Lynx, or Tracer that had a FORD 4 cylinder engine in it-between lunching timing belts, bending valves, even cracking blocks due to losing the timing belt at speed on the interstate, and dropping valve seats out of their GARBAGE cylinder heads!


I don’t know I had a 2000 Escort ZX2 with the 2.0 Zetec and manual trans. I owned it I think 7 years and got it with 114k on it, put another 70-80k on it before selling when the water pump started leaking and I didn’t want to deal with it. I’ll be darned though if the thing just ran and ran on my long commute. It seized a pulley once and threw the belt but I still made it home. Other than that it was tires and oil and a rusted muffler in that time. Oh and the AC evaporator too.


The Zetec was a much improved engine over the older Ford 4cyls. The Duratecs (mostly Mazda engines) were better still. Were it not for their garbage DSGs, Ford would actually have some fairly reliable small cars these days. Widely proliferating the DSG (especially when they have very good conventional automatics, some of which they spent a fortune on with GM, and then hardly used) was the biggest mistake they've made in a very long time.


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Re: Simple Q: Most unreliable car you've ever had? [Re: Sierra977] #4978524 01/14/19 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sierra977
My first car was the least "reliable". In 1962 bought a 1956 Chevrolet 150 2-door post. Found it on a small-town Texas used cart lot sitting there sprayed primer black. Paid $250. I was thirteen and just got my driver's license. Car had V8 with two four-barrel carburetors. Turned it into a 1960's street gasser just like everybody else. Gotta say it was not very reliable but all the work it took to keep it running taught me everything it took to get me started with cars and the people associated with them. Do it again in a heartbeat.

ETA: Like this one
ETA 2: Engine did not have an oil filter at all, none

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Was the engine a 265 Chevy v8?


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'84 Z-28...thing was in the shop more than it was in my garage...

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1982 Ford Escort. Total piece of crap.


I owned a 1985 Escort GT, was extremely reliable. Knew not to buy older ones though since they had interference engines. Mine had the fuel injected engine, and it ran great.
I still drive my 1995 Escort, and it's also extremely reliable.

Worst car was a 1975 Chevy Monza. First year car and used a lot of left over Vega parts, like undersized brakes. Besides brakes, my other issues was that it was my first car ever and learned the hard way where not to buy auto parts.

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Head gasket failed 2x and transmission input shaft broke before 75k miles.

What a pile of excrement.


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It's a tie between my '67 Mustang and my '07 VW Eos.

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1982 Saab 900. The fuel injection was never quite right on it, no matter how much I spent or what mechanic did the work.

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'76 Nova by a longshot.
Didn't own it for very long, but it had a major issue with the rear suspension that we just couldn't get fixed.
Dad either made his own repair or had somebody else do it just before he gave it to me and it broke maybe 6 months after I moved to Dallas.
Broke again in less than 6 months, although the shop told me that they were going to actually get the "right part" the second time around, so maybe the first TX failure wasn't all the car's fault...this was a Chief Auto shop attached to a 7-11, I went there because it was right across the street from my apartment complex.
A gal in a little Honda rear ended me going about 45mph while I was stopped in traffic before it could break again...I went out and bought my own little Honda that was no trouble at all for me for several years.

That Nova had a hard time starting in Dallas winter weather, I can't believe my dad drove it in Chicago for so long.


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I haven't had any that left me stranded. The ones with the most warranty issues were:

2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee
2015 Lincoln MKC

Both were bought brand new, and both were first model year of re-design or initial design.


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BMW 335d.

At 50k miles the pump in the DEF tank would not turn off and consequently it would pump alll of the DEF through the vent tubes on to the ground.


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1985 Buick Skyhawk. Bought it right at mileage where stuff starts to go wrong, was young and didn't really know any better.

Close 2nd - 2003 Mazda Tribute V-6. Got a lot of miles out of it, but took a lot to get there.


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Originally Posted by addyguy
1985 Buick Skyhawk. Bought it right at mileage where stuff starts to go wrong, was young and didn't really know any better.

Close 2nd - 2003 Mazda Tribute V-6. Got a lot of miles out of it, but took a lot to get there.


That second one is odd. I don't think the Escape/Tribute with it's 3.0 is the most reliable vehicle ever built, but generally speaking they seem solid, and parts are cheap. There's still a lot of those things running around my neck of the woods because they're a cheap 4WD with good ground clearance, decent mileage low costs to run. and You must have gotten a bad one.


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2nd most unreliable vehicle I had was an '84 Bronco II 2.8l V6 4x4 w /Manual transmission and 31.5" A/T tires and stiffer suspension. It wasn't unreliable per se, it was just never fully functional. I think the A/C only worked through the warranty and never worked that long again. The A/C really worked quite rarely. And it frequently stalled when turning one direction. With those tires and whatever gearing it had, my highway trips would be foot to the floor at about 80 mph.

My least reliable was a tie between an '85 Aerostar V6 Auto and an '04 Audi A4. Both were bought new and were horribly unreliable right off the bat, neither got better with age. The Aerostar had similar problems to the Bronco, but at least it was fuel injected. Multiple transmission rebuilds/replacements during and after warranty. Rarely working A/C and power windows (The bronco II had crank windows), issues with the digital dash and A/C control. General malaise, but we ended up getting it to almost 200K on two engines. The Audi we only had for 67K but it felt like 200K. That was one of only three vehicles I've ever sold with less than 80K miles on the odometer, and it was the only one due to reliability.


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1999 Mercedes ML320-great driving car, but just awful; switches falling apart, circuits switching on/off uncommanded, center bearing gone at ~25K miles, final straw was the car having a stroke at ~40K miles and completely shutting down at cruise on the highway. A main engine harness shorted at a connector and shut down the car, failed the OBC and panel. ~$4K and three trips to the dealer later (to correcte lingering issues-the harness was spliced), we traded it in. This car and the dealer and MB USA's response has me still soured on MB.

2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited-top of the line GC. vinyl sides of the leather seats cracked at ~20K miles, nav and entertainment screen issues (volume, locking up, etc., not switching between functions), then a burning smell that required warranty replacement of a relay pack in the dash. Final straw was the transfer case pulling itself into neutral after the car shut down...found this by sitting in the car finishing a call when I heard a whirr and the neutral light came on dimly. Traded it in with the burning smell returning. This car sold me on Range Rovers...figured if I was going to deal w/ this quality, I might as well get what I really wanted.


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I've been pretty lucky. I've only ever owned trucks, but all of them went to, or over 300,000 miles without much fuss. They were Dodge's, Chevy's, and Toyotas.
My uncle, brother, and mother all had Ford F150s with major issues though. My uncle's literally dropped a driveline on the freeway on the way home from the dealer! Two weeks later, two of the coils went out on us 300 miles from home, in the middle of nowhere. Limped back on six, rough riding cylinders. Two weeks later, it wouldn't go in reverse. Brand new F150 that got lemon lawed in first month of ownership!
My brother's and mother's F150s both suffered cracked blocks before they hit 60,000 miles. They also had a lot of electrical things go out, and my mother's park brake never worked right.
Needless to say, I am still scared to own a Ford to this day. I guess that's why I bought Chevys, Dodges, and Toyotas!

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Originally Posted by wings&wheels
1999 Mercedes ML320-great driving car, but just awful; switches falling apart, circuits switching on/off uncommanded, center bearing gone at ~25K miles, final straw was the car having a stroke at ~40K miles and completely shutting down at cruise on the highway. A main engine harness shorted at a connector and shut down the car, failed the OBC and panel. ~$4K and three trips to the dealer later (to correcte lingering issues-the harness was spliced), we traded it in. This car and the dealer and MB USA's response has me still soured on MB.


Ughhhh the first gen ML was probably the absolute worst modern Mercedes ever made. Overall the entire Mercedes lineup was just garbage the entire time during the Chrysler marriage, handsome cars yes but not reliable by any stretch of the imagination. I think the W211 E-Class is probably the best looking E but I wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole hence the W212 in my signature which IMO was MB's return to engineering excellence.


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2006 BMW 330xi, 90k miles, valve lifter tap, doors leaked water, window motor failure, door lock actuator failure, iDrive failure, driveshaft/rear end clunk, power mirrors would move on their own in the rain, oil leaks, randomly not starting, required programming for everything you replaced, fear of sudden electric water pump failure...that alone was enough for me to dump the car. Not only would it not start, it could break down whenever it felt like it.


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I don't think I've truly had a bad car. I tend to rack up miles quickly, then move on.

My 2004 VW would be the worst, and I suspect most on this board would say "meh" to its failures. It did need wheel bearings at 105k, struts at 133k, and a few repairs before the 250k mark--but it was always something I schedule and plan for. However, at the 250k mark it had to be towed twice, once for a turbo failure and once for a fuel pump failure. I had both repaired, putting in a bigger turbo and had it chipped, and I then drove it for a couple more years and 60k, with no other issues. It did seem to go through windshields, but perhaps that was from cheapo aftermarket (soft) replacements.

After 9 or 10 years it did rust through. Dealer denied repairs despite the 12 year perforation warranty so there's that aspect.

Our 2001 Civic was awful, but that was the wife's. LOL That darn car needed a/c work every other year, and it had to be towed once when a CV axle broke (recently saw on SMA a Honda where the axle rusted in half--now I wonder if that was the failure).


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2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 153k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 211k, his
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We (my sister and I) "got to" share a 70-something Pontiac Astre, a malignant monstrosity that ALWAYS HAD something wrong until the day it put itself out of our misery.

For those who don't recall (most everyone, I expect, except former owner- victims...) this car was a Chevy Vega clone. In other words, it was a wolf ... in another wolf's clothing. An actual starving wolf with rabies would make a better companion...

This car had the ill-fated aluminum block and iron head engine (you read that right; I didn't get it backwards), with naturally primitive gasket. Nevermind the leaks, the butter-soft unlined cylinder walls assured that "miles per gallon" applied to oil as well as gasoline -- and the numbers were similar...

Thankfully, I've forgotten many of the specific ills this car suffered. There were so many. It finally got its well deserved trip to the junk yard (Pontiac should have shipped it there from the plant...) after it nearly killed my sister. As she tried to turn left across a busy intersection, the shift cable snapped before she could finish getting in second.

Today, people would be indignant over a snapped shift cable. For us, it was just what the Astre did today...


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2002 Ford Taurus. What a worthless pile of junk.


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It's a tie....2005 Grand caravan and our current 2014 town and country. I've really wanted to like these vans and I hate to read all the negative comments about chrysler vans. The reality is out of all the cars I've owned (foreign and domestic) these vans have had the most issues and have had the most down time by far. I own a 2012 corolla that is boring and unexciting but has had zero issues from day one. I'm getting older and I guess I just want something reliable.

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Mk7 Golf - nice car, but water pump failed and stranded me after around 15000 miles, and had numerous electrical gremlins from intermittent power windows and electric parking brake to the ECU having a meltdown in the middle of a long journey and shutting the entire car down, necessitating a callout of an engineer with a diagnostics machine to reset the entire car to get me going again (nothing was actually mechanically wrong, the computer had just crashed). Had the car from new as a lease for two years and around 25000 miles, and being stranded twice and annoyed often during that time was not a pleasant ownership experience, compounded by the aggravating level of incompetence that seems endemic in VW UK's customer service.

I've had a few VWs and so have other family members, and it really seems a lottery as to whether they have problems or are bulletproof.

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Today, people would be indignant over a snapped shift cable. For us, it was just what the Astre did today...


My mum went to college in the 1960's and had her dad's old Renault Dauphine. She drove through the mountains of Vermont and overheated on the same pass every time. She carried water, added it, then carried on like it was no big deal. We'd be pretty annoyed nowadays.

Her dad showed the world what he thought of that lousy radiator by buying her a brand new air-cooled Beetle as a graduation present. LOL

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Today, people would be indignant over a snapped shift cable. For us, it was just what the Astre did today...


My mum went to college in the 1960's and had her dad's old Renault Dauphine. She drove through the mountains of Vermont and overheated on the same pass every time. She carried water, added it, then carried on like it was no big deal. We'd be pretty annoyed nowadays.

Her dad showed the world what he thought of that lousy radiator by buying her a brand new air-cooled Beetle as a graduation present. LOL


She didn't make out so badly on that deal! I drove a rusty '69 Beetle for a year or so spanning 78 and 79 IIRC, maybe into 1980. Check out the recent "kludge" thread, in this forum, for how I once coaxed it back to life with nothing but an 18 inch length of fuzzy pink yarn I found in the grime of the back seat floor... For better or worse, you never had to worry about coolant leaks or contamination... laugh

As for the Dauphine, well, it still would have been a decent deal for your Mom if your Dad had just taken it away, and not given her any car to replace it! Those things were absolutely atrocious. Several friends or associates of my parents over the years owned examples of these --- things. I was going to say "cars," but that would be too generous.

We really are pretty spoiled today (myself very much included). Very often, the car throws a code, telling you what's wrong with it. Cars of that time made you work to figure out their many problems. Another family friend owned a string of Peugeots. At the same time he professed to love them, he insisted you could never take one on the road without bringing a tool kit! Never did understand his "love" for the brand. Maybe it's like "enjoying" a liquor that sane people realize goes down like a mouthful of flaming napalm. crzy


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I haven't had an unreliable car yet. My bike I had when I was 15-19 would qualify as the most unreliable transportation. It was an 86 Honda Xl250R dual sport, I put about 10k miles on in a couple years. It had stalling and starting issues, leaking head gasket, broken kick starter etc. The 83 grand prix dad gave me when I was 17ish never left me anywhere.

I've had 2 1980s Cutlass, 3 Caprices, a delta 88 and a 2000 Cavalier (for a couple months). I sold the Cavalier because it was boring and uncomfortable for my long drive. The rest I got rid of due to excessive rust but they were all fairly reliable.

When I was a kid my parents had an 84 Plymouth reliant (k car) 2.2L and a 77 Toyota Corolla. Both were very unreliable and broke down a lot.


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For the first year I owned my Jeep (bought it used with 80k miles) it wasn't the most reliable thing in the world. I soon found out the PO was not very good with maintenance (coolant was full of gunk), oil was hardly changed, etc.

They also really liked Autozone, which is the WORST place to buy parts. The alternator from Autozone with a lifetime warranty failed 3 times before I got a new one from somewhere else. Once I undid everything the previous owner "fixed" the Jeep has been rock solid reliable for 9 more years and 100k+ miles now.

My BMW has been the same way, I had to fix a few things the previous owner "fixed" before I got it, but it has been okay since then. I always know buying a used vehicle I will have to spend a bit on maintenance before it will be up to my standards, and budget that into my purchase price.


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2009 BMW 328i (48k) - Castrol Edge Euro 0w40, MANN HU816X
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A Nissan Sentra Wagon . In humid , rainy weather the distributor cap would get condensation inside and the engine would not crank until you dried it out . Also , when you cranked it on a cold morning the engine would rev up to a bazillion rpm's . Hated that car .

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Toss up between 1976 Vega (overall POS) and 1984 Corvette (massive electrical problems). Over the years, I have had more problems with GM vehicles than any other brand.


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1988 Jetta GLI 16valve

Fuel pump relay
AC relay
Oil pressure sensor x 2
Turn signal relay
Blower fan and resistor pack
Bad ground (no starts)
Bad ground on ECU led to stalling in traffic

Flawless mechanically!

I actually ended up fixing majority of above DIY from junkyard electrical parts.

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