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tightening torque for wheel lugs #4975910
01/11/19 10:18 AM
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BobGoblin Offline OP
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Hi. I bought a torque wrench. What a cool tool! laugh

Anyway, my tightening torrque for wheel lugs is 88-107 Nm by the book. But previosly by hand I tightened them to over 200 Nm. So this 100 Nm feels unsafe and weak. I can turn about 1/4 turn after 120Nm! I am afraid it is too low torque. What do you think?


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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975921
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Torque them to 87-100 Nm. Just because you could hand-tighten them to 200+ doesn't make a difference.

Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975924
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What kind of torque wrench? A clicker?

Could be off calibration. FInd someone with a beam type and torque the lugs down and then try with your new torque wrench. The beam type seldom go out of calibration.


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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975928
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I have never used a torque wrench on lug nuts , and I am nor a senioe citizen . None have fallen off yet .


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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975930
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I use one for torquing lug nuts. I go by what the mfg. of the vehicle specs.


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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: demarpaint] #4975936
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Originally Posted by demarpaint
I use one for torquing lug nuts. I go by what the mfg. of the vehicle specs.


Absolutely! The torque is there so that over tightening doesn't occur which could warp the brake rotors.

Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975943
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I have a Precision Instruments split beam torque wrench that's always on 80 ft-lbf for Toyota lug nuts. I change the setting when I need it for something else but in your case, torque to factory specs and see if yours is calibrated.


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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975946
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What's a Nm? I torque mine to about 95 ft lbs.


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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975949
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I bought 3 wrenches (clicker), one for me, and other two for my friends. Brand new. They are all the same. I just feel 100nm is too weak, I am afraid it wild loosen it by itself while driving. Thats all. I will tighten them to 110Nm, and monitor every few days if it loosened...

Nm is Newton meter. Thats the unit we use in Europe.

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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: Pelican] #4975964
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Originally Posted by Pelican
Originally Posted by demarpaint
I use one for torquing lug nuts. I go by what the mfg. of the vehicle specs.

Absolutely! The torque is there so that over tightening doesn't occur which could warp the brake rotors.

I agree, and that's why I use a Torque Wrench on Lug Nuts.

Newton Meter converted to Ft. Lbs.
88 NM = 65 Ft Lbs
107 NM = 79 Ft Lbs
--------------------------
200 NM = 147 Ft Lbs

Diameter of Stud would also factor into proper torque.

Tire change places want you to come back after a few days so they can RECHECK the torque.
They know lug nuts may loosen.


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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975967
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by chance are you lubricating the lug nuts or studs?

Last edited by Donald; 01/11/19 11:02 AM.

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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975977
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Originally Posted by BobGoblin
Hi. I bought a torque wrench. What a cool tool! laugh

Anyway, my tightening torrque for wheel lugs is 88-107 Nm by the book. But previosly by hand I tightened them to over 200 Nm. So this 100 Nm feels unsafe and weak. I can turn about 1/4 turn after 120Nm! I am afraid it is too low torque. What do you think?


200 Nm is 147 ft lbs. The torque for my 3/4 ton Chev Suburban with 8 lug nuts on 17 inch wheels is 140 ft lbs. You were applying 147 ft lbs to a Kia? shocked2

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 01/11/19 11:13 AM.

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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975978
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200 Nm = 147 ft Nm

I see a chart of various torque values for other Kias and they range from 80-100 ft/lbs (108-135 Nm). Again, use the spec'd value. Just because you used to use higher torque doesn't mean it's right.

Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: BobGoblin] #4975979
01/11/19 11:13 AM
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Grab a Harbor Freight 1/2" Torque Wrench, and set it to the midpoint of that range - it will be accurate enough.

I am in the camp that believes the numerous online tests showing HF torque wrenches being within 1-2% of actual torque specs..


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Re: tightening torque for wheel lugs [Re: WyrTwister] #4975989
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Originally Posted by WyrTwister
I have never used a torque wrench on lug nuts , and I am nor a senioe citizen . None have fallen off yet .

I used to think like that. But then I bought a $30 HF clicker and "warping" and "balancing" issues vanished. My non calibrated "ugga duggas" were causing runout.


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