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m1 0w40 wet clutch? #4964212
12/29/18 11:20 AM
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Doublehaul Offline OP
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Hey Guys,

Also curious as to this one...no JASO cert...but is it ok in a shared gear box as well?


2019 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 TRD
2019 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD

Mobil 1 0w40


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Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #4964216
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I'd take a wild guess here and warn you that it might shear down a grade or two in the blink of an eye when used in a shared sump.


2004 Suzuki GS500F
2006 Renault Megane 1.5 dci
Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #4964274
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more info helps, what + where will it be used

Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #4964311
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What motorcycle would you put this in ? Unless it called for a 0w-X in the manual, I think I would not recommend it. I can see possibly a ATV or snowmobile might recommend it for cold temps though.

Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #4964887
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Sorry guys...this would be for a Honda Rancher 350. Calls for a 40wt...had some lying around


2019 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 TRD
2019 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD

Mobil 1 0w40


The specs on the back are more important than the label on the front
Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #4965056
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I don't know about the 0w-40 but M1 HM 10w-30 works great in my Kawasaki UTV. HTHS >3.5 of the 0w-40 I would think would be fine.


2005 Ranger 3.0 - M1 HM 5w-30/Motorcraft - (85+K)
2000 4Runner 3.4 - M1 HM 10w-30/Toyota - (250+K)
1997 B2500 Van 3.9 - M1 HM 10w-30/Mopar - (175+K)
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Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #4969124
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Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #4975154
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I know Rotella T6 5w-40 is Wet clutch approved and available almost everyehere.


1998 Dodge Neon-Rebuilt 2.4L-Schaeffer 5w40
2014 Dodge Durango 3.6, 63K- Schaeffer 5w-20
2002 Ram 2500 Cummins 125K- Schaeffer 5w-40
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Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #4975889
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0W is just the cold weather rating of the oil, 0w-40, 10W-40 are both 40 wts at operating temp so a 0W will not cause one bit of problems except maybe start easier. Honda ATV's have wet clutch so its must carry the JASO MA spec.


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Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #4980594
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I wouldn't use it if it has an internal "wet" clutch. Use a good 5W-40 or 15W-40 diesel oil. Shell Rotella oil in these grades meets the JASO MA wet clutch specs. I have used them for years in several ATV/UTV's with excellent results. I prefer the 15W-40 unless I'm running it in the Winter when 5W-40 makes it easier to start.

Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #4988563
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I wouldn't use it. There is nothing demanding Mobil to build it to resist heavy shearing, and there is great potential for it to shear a lot very quickly (<1000mi). Suggested heirarchy:
1. ATV/Motorcycle Oil
2. Allison TES-439 spec'd HDEO oil (15w40)
3. Monograde HD oils
4. CK4 HDEO (15w40)

maybe try looking for Delo XLE 15w40 next?

Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #5019646
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Just use M1 Racing 4t 10W-40 and don't worry about it, a motorcycle oil designed for wet clutch use. I've had good luck with it in my 400EX. I'd never use a car oil in a wet clutch, if it's not JASO certified, don't even try!


2004 Toyota Tacoma 3.4 V6: Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30, FRAM PH3614 filter
1969 Mustang Mach 1 5.8 V8: PYB 10W-30, Napa Gold 1515 filter
2013 Honda 400EX ATV: Mobil 1 Racing 4t 10W-40, OEM filter
Re: m1 0w40 wet clutch? [Re: Doublehaul] #5019647
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Not to mention, M1 Racing 4t 10W-40 is formulated with extra shear resistant additives in mind for this purpose. It's a very stout motorcycle oil and the best I've tried so far. I'd imagine as stated above, a 0W-40 would shear out of grade real fast in a shared sump application as these are extremely hard on oil.


2004 Toyota Tacoma 3.4 V6: Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30, FRAM PH3614 filter
1969 Mustang Mach 1 5.8 V8: PYB 10W-30, Napa Gold 1515 filter
2013 Honda 400EX ATV: Mobil 1 Racing 4t 10W-40, OEM filter
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