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2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi #4975825
01/11/19 09:11 AM
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Code
Fluid Manufacture	Castrol
Fluid Category	GTX Magnatec
Fluid Grade	5W20
Time on Unit	71952
Compartment Age	71952
Time on Fluid	7774

Metals (ppm)	
Aluminium (Al)	6
Nickel (Ni)	1
Chromium (Cr)	2
Iron (Fe)	47
Copper (Cu)	33
Lead (Pb)	<1
Tin (Sn)	<1
Titanium (Ti)	<1
Vanadium (V)	<1
Silver (Ag)	<1
Additives (ppm)	
Potassium (K)	5
Molybdenum (Mo)	13
Boron (B)	18
Magnesium (Mg)	95
Calcium (Ca)	1790
Zinc (Zn)	702
Phosphorus (P)	575
Barium (Ba)	<1
Contaminants (ppm)	
Silicon (Si)	19
Sodium (Na)	7
Contaminants	
Water (%)	<0.05
Coolant	No
Physical Tests	
Viscosity (cSt 100C)	8.8
Physical / Chemical	
Base Number (mgKOH/g)	2.2


This sample saw frequent towing, average mpg for the interval was 12.9. olm was at 1%. The filter used was a fram TG10575.

Comments from the lab: "Engine wear levels appear satisfactory for first sample. Silicon level (dirt/sealant material) satisfactory. Water content acceptable. Viscosity within specified operating range. Action: As oil and filter(s) already changed, resample next service interval to monitor and establish wear trend."

Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: lawrencerd] #4975897
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I'm not familiar with that engine and you dont have universal averages or what the average miles are but the Iron and Copper look outrageously high to me.


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Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: lawrencerd] #4975944
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Is this a 0w20 specified truck? I'd think a 5w30 would be more appropriate for towing. Seems like a lot of iron/copper. I suppose the numbers are within universal average.


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Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: lawrencerd] #4975980
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It is a Chevy V8, that explains the iron-wonder where the copper is coming from-does a 5.3 have an oil cooler?


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Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: lawrencerd] #4976545
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Yeah, it's a 0w-20 specced truck with zero ambiguity about it. We might compare a run or two of magnatec 5w-30 and see how it likes it, but stuck with 20wt so far. This engine has a variable displacement oil pump and cylinder deactivation, but member gonefishing seems to have tried 5w-30 at some point with no apparent issues. I believe the truck is equipped with an oil cooler.

Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: lawrencerd] #5012837
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0-20 Should be in this truck, Also Copper levels are normal for L83 sbc, Iron is about on par also maybe slightly high but well okay. Run Wix XP or Fram ultra and use 0-20 like dexos approved oil and see how next analysis is at 7k.
(I know these numbers are about on par cause my last truck was L83 5.3 also)

Last edited by Shata; 02/16/19 06:20 AM.

16 Silverado 2500 LML 20k Miles
Rotella 5w-40 T6
ST 75w-90 GL5 Diff.
ST Full Syn Dexron VI ATF
Fram Ultra XG9100, AC Delco Fuel
CAT Coolant, K&N Air, K&N Cabin
Filter Mags: Fuel, Allison, LML
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Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: lawrencerd] #5013640
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There is nothing abnormal about this sample. Thanks for posting.


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Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: dave1251] #5013985
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So what’s a bad iron number on a 7,700 mile run?

2ppm per thousand miles is more typical. Is this the kind of bump we should expect from towing?

Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: jimbrewer] #5016747
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Originally Posted by jimbrewer
So what’s a bad iron number on a 7,700 mile run?

2ppm per thousand miles is more typical. Is this the kind of bump we should expect from towing?



No, it's the kind of bump you should expect from a GM V8.


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Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: Brons2] #5017144
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Well, if it were me, I’d change a losing game.

I’d at least change brands. If that didn’t help I would move up to slightly heavier oil.

Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: lawrencerd] #5049937
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I've always heard Fram filters were garbage, I use Napa Gold (Wix) or purolator. I've almost never heard of anyone actually like and recommend a fram oil filter.

Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: battleman13] #5050167
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(Welcome to Bitog). Keep reading BITOG threads here battleman. Then you will slowly change your mind.


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Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: bullwinkle] #5050346
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They have coolers and cast iron sleeves …

Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: battleman13] #5052149
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Originally Posted by battleman13
I've always heard Fram filters were garbage, I use Napa Gold (Wix) or purolator. I've almost never heard of anyone actually like and recommend a fram oil filter.


Fram's quality is variable. The cheap orange cans are a bottom tier filter, but the Ultra (gold can) is a top tier filter, as good as anything made and not too expensive, either. The Fram Ultras are a favorite around these parts.


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Re: 2014 Silverado 5.3, Magnatec 5w20, 7774.7mi [Re: battleman13] #5052168
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Originally Posted by battleman13
I've always heard Fram filters were garbage, I use Napa Gold (Wix) or purolator. I've almost never heard of anyone actually like and recommend a fram oil filter.

Huh, I wonder where you got that.


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