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Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ #4975096
01/10/19 11:56 AM
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The benefits are obvious, but...

What are the drawbacks to using these?
Have any of you tried it and reverted back to plug? Why?
Which are the most reliable? ( I didn't realize there were so many).

I'm interested but undecided.

Thanks in advance thumbsup


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Now: M1AP 5/20 + M1
Next: QSUD 5/30

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975114
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I would have to have an install where it was protected from damage . Especially sticking down lower than the rest of the underside of the vehicle .


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975116
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I have used the Fumotos on all my vehicles since 2005. No issues or failures. The only drawback is slower drain flow so longer time requirements and the possibility that slightly more old oil remains in the pan than using the plug. Neither have been an issue to me in 13 years.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975120
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I prefer using an oil extractor. One extractor is good for as many vehicles as you service, you don't have to crawl under the vehicle, you don't have to worry about it leaking, you don't have to worry about stripping the threads on the oil plug.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975126
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I posted a picture of the installed valve towards the end of the thread:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...0830/fumoto-sx-series-valves#Post4890830


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975139
01/10/19 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wemay
The benefits are obvious, but...

What are the drawbacks to using these?
Have any of you tried it and reverted back to plug? Why?
Which are the most reliable? ( I didn't realize there were so many).

I'm interested but undecided.

Thanks in advance thumbsup


The Subaru were perfect for the Fumoto valves. I little recess in the bottom engine cover where the drain plug was. With Fumoto valve installed it is still up in recess, nothing sticks down.

On Ford PSD the oil drain plug seems more exposed so still have drain plug.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975145
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One drawback is the unfamiliarity of most mechanics with the concept. If you take your Fumoto-equipped vehicle in for an oil change don’t be surprised if they remove the valve completely.

Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: Danh] #4975146
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Originally Posted by Danh
One drawback is the unfamiliarity of most mechanics with the concept. If you take your Fumoto-equipped vehicle in for an oil change don’t be surprised if they remove the valve completely.

Yep.

Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975161
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CAT had a similar valve on heavy machinery and it was very slow to drain, it was more like a petcock with 1/4 tubing. I can't see using these types of drains on a typical car. I have seen quick couplers on heavy trucks to attach a pump to a bulk tank.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975167
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Fortunately I never owned a vehicle that I felt needed one.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975175
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I had to return a Fumoto valve for a refund since it didn't fit on my 1993 Yota. The clearance between the oil drain hole and the tranny housing wasn't enough to manipulate the valve into the oil pan.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975177
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i just checked with both brands and they say i need an adapter. Not fond of adding yet another potential leaking point so will have to think this through.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975178
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I like to dump the oil and have it come out as quickly as possible. Usually with the engine hot and I even open the fill cap to help. The Idea is to draw out any heavier particulates that may be on the bottom of the pan near the oil drain. Anything that slows down the flow or has threads that extend up into the pan IMO is not optimal. After I drain oil I also look at the drain pan for anything abnormal.

Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975188
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Originally Posted by wemay
i just checked with both brands and they say i need an adapter. Not fond of adding yet another potential leaking point so will have to think this through.


I own a 2013 SFS 2.0T same as yours. No adapter is needed for a Fumoto, F106N (nipple version) Is best. Been using them for 30 years, never a leak,

Slow draining issue? That's when you do the filter.

Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: user52165] #4975199
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Originally Posted by user52165
Originally Posted by wemay
i just checked with both brands and they say i need an adapter. Not fond of adding yet another potential leaking point so will have to think this through.


I own a 2013 SFS 2.0T same as yours. No adapter is needed for a Fumoto, F106N (nipple version) Is best. Been using them for 30 years, never a leak,

Slow draining issue? That's when you do the filter.



Correct, the Hyundai doesn't. It's the Sportage that does.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975225
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Been using Fumoto for over a decade on multiple vehicles in the family including my own. No downsides I can see. I get just as much oil out with the valave as with the drain plug.

I really like that you can put a tube on the end of the version I buy with the brass nipple (not the white plastic version) so that the oil doesn't splash on windy days as its draining.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: Kawiguy454] #4975241
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Originally Posted by Kawiguy454
I like to dump the oil and have it come out as quickly as possible. Usually with the engine hot and I even open the fill cap to help. The Idea is to draw out any heavier particulates that may be on the bottom of the pan near the oil drain. Anything that slows down the flow or has threads that extend up into the pan IMO is not optimal. After I drain oil I also look at the drain pan for anything abnormal.


If the valve slows it down (if) its not by much. It will drain out quickly with Fumoto valve or just drain hole.

I doubt there is a significant amount of oil left in the oil pan after draining with a Fumoto valve.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: redbone3] #4975281
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Originally Posted by redbone3
I prefer using an oil extractor. One extractor is good for as many vehicles as you service, you don't have to crawl under the vehicle, you don't have to worry about it leaking, you don't have to worry about stripping the threads on the oil plug.


I bought an oil extractor, only to find that I can't get the tube down into the fluid on my Subaru. Not the oil, nor the transmission fluid. I'm not sure if there's something blocking the path or if the opening is just big enough for the flat metal of the dipstick to get through. I worked and wiggled and pushed the tube for probably 5-7 minutes each to no avail. I was heartbroken to discover this after dropping $50 on the extractor.

Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975329
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I don’t think there is a blanket yes or no answer. It depends on your vehicle. Will the valve make it easier to drain the oil?

Then there is the possible consequences of having someone else do your oil change. Will they secure the valve properly?


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975347
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On my truck, I have the version with the nipple. I have a 6" length of hose clamped to the nipple. The truck has an underbelly "diaper"-like skid plate with some cutouts in it. I leave the hose laying on the diaper when not in use and pull it through the cutout and directly into my oil jug (repurposed 9.8 liter plastic RV antifreeze jug). Reach up, flip the lever and drain the oil without a pan. when it's done, flip the lever closed and tuck the hose back onto the plate. the filter has a built in funnel under it and i can direct the oil from the filter directly into the same jug. Easy oil change with the fumoto and no mess.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975361
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Originally Posted by wemay
The benefits are obvious, but...

What are the drawbacks to using these?
Have any of you tried it and reverted back to plug? Why?
Which are the most reliable? ( I didn't realize there were so many).

I'm interested but undecided.

Thanks in advance thumbsup



What's the big advantage you still have to crawl under the car?


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975368
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Originally Posted by wemay
The benefits are obvious, but...
What are the drawbacks to using these?
Have any of you tried it and reverted back to plug? Why?
Which are the most reliable? ( I didn't realize there were so many).
I'm interested but undecided.
Thanks in advance thumbsup


Drawbacks:
-- potential for leakage (maybe small, but still... happens once and you are toast)
-- vulnerable to damage (not always, depends on model... happens once and you are toast)
-- spending money on a part you don't really need

With the popularity of these quick drain valves... our lives have become WAY too busy.
If 20 minutes is too long for a homemade oil change, it's probably time to loosen up the schedule a bit. Just sayin


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975373
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Is there such thing as a Fumoto valve for the atf plug? if so I could see getting one for the oil and one for the atf.

edit: found this:

https://help.fumotooildrainvalve.co...I-use-a-Fumoto-valve-on-my-transmission-

Last edited by SatinSilver; 01/10/19 05:34 PM.
Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975386
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Random, but does anyone know of a Fumoto like thing where you can pick the thread pitch?


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975397
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I went to Fumoto's HQ at 45 E.34th St. in Manhattan. They had a wall of bins with lots of sizes.
Go to their catalog / website or call 'em (877) 350-5584
Are you looking for a size used by car/truck makers or something odd?

Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975398
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I just couldn't handle it sticking down and being so exposed. I used them for a while but it does take a lot longer to drain and when I removed them a little more oil came out. Not a lot, though.

I sold all of mine here on bitog.....


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975438
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Used a Fumoto 10 years on a Saturn. No problem. Loved to just change oil in Winter and used a good filter for 2 OCI's.

Then came my 2017 Elantra. Was going to let dealership change oil then had 3 gallons of free PP 5w-30 to use. I figured a way to change my oil with car parked in garage. So with the EZ valve I just come home from work. Open valve under cat litter pan. Come in and pet cats. Take a cat nap. A few hours later come out and close the valve and change oil filter. If I want a look see I use a mirror. Everything is protected and more oil drained than with oil drain plug. Needed 4.2 quarts compared to the 4 quarts needed when using the drain plug.

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: demarpaint] #4975455
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Originally Posted by demarpaint
Fortunately I never owned a vehicle that I felt needed one.

For me, the vehicles didn't need a Fumoto at all. The real problem was the person who always makes a mess doing the oil change. That would be the guy I see every day in the mirror when shaving. wink


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: Garak] #4975463
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Originally Posted by Garak
Originally Posted by demarpaint
Fortunately I never owned a vehicle that I felt needed one.

For me, the vehicles didn't need a Fumoto at all. The real problem was the person who always makes a mess doing the oil change. That would be the guy I see every day in the mirror when shaving. wink

Even with a Fumoto valve I managed to make a mess. Was in a rush one day and put oil in my Saturn before I closed the valve. They are not fool proof, me being the fool.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: MONKEYMAN] #4975573
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I'm sure I can still make a mess. I imagine I can move the oil pan somewhere foolish, fumble with the valve, and there's always my old standby of slam dunking the oil filter into the pan.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975608
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I have them on my truck and Scion, had them on my Elantra, Jeep TJ, and Grand Caravan, will be getting one for my Santa Fe.
I just find it easier when doing the oil change to not worry about what size the drain plug is. Just get the drain pan, slide it under, and open the Fumoto. Go up top, remove the fill cap, go grab the filter and oil, go under vehicle and close Fumoto, remove and replace filter, go back up top, add oil and done.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975680
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While these drain valves are not for me, but I do have a question:
What if the thread length is somewhat longer than the female threads?
Does this limit a complete drain?

Just curious...


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975724
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JeffKeryk,

Yes, there's a video where model 106 SX is being installed on a 2015 Wrangler where the presenter discusses this.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975849
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Originally Posted by wemay
JeffKeryk,

Yes, there's a video where model 106 SX is being installed on a 2015 Wrangler where the presenter discusses this.

That video landed on Youtube; I tool a look.
I guess a lotta people like these valves, but it ain't for me.
Not sure how much oil is trapped in the pan, but it certainly looks like some could be.

For me, grabbing a Snap-On wrench outta the roll away is a thing of joy.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975861
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I have tested mine on my Santa Fe, Journey and now the Caravan whereby I drain the oil using the valve, close the valve and then remove the valve and see what else comes out and it's only a few drips at most, not even a fine stream or dripping stream indicating there was a bit more oil to come out so it's getting everything out of mine.

You could always put a thin threaded nut onto the valve first, tighten down and then put this up against the blue sealing washer they send you with the valve and this will keep more threads on the valve out of the pan, but I haven't found this necessary to date on any of the vehicles I have had it on. Maybe it's because I change my oil using ramps on the front end and the engine is tilted or because the oil is hot when I change it I don't know...


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975892
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Any steel pan that has an oil drain has a fitting that extends beyond the floor of the pan. There is definitely oil staying in there. Unbelievably, some cast pans are this way too.

I use Fumoto valves on some of my equipment. They are fantastic for windy days and such. No big mess or oil being whipped all over.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4975958
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I am not worried about a few ounces of oil that may be left in my pan (if any) by using the Fumoto.
More oil sitting in passageways and such within the engine than is left in the pan.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: JeffKeryk] #4976656
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Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
Not sure how much oil is trapped in the pan, but it certainly looks like some could be.

In my case, with the G37, my experience is the same as that of StevieC. I basically let it stop dripping, removed the Fumoto, and just got dripping again, so it's pretty insignificant. Of course, it's not necessarily that way in other applications.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4976675
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I have used Fumoto valves on all my vehicles and equipment for over 20 years. Jeeps, cars, pickup trucks, semi trucks, compact tractors, etc. I have never reverted back to plug. I change any vehicle over to Fumoto at the first oil change. My previous Jeep and all my pickups have had to deal with off road on my property. Ditches, hillside terraces, pushing snow, nasty rural gravel roads year round, etc. I have never had a valve leak or fail. The one on my '95 Freightliner went 1.4 million miles. A '05 International, 989,000 miles. Current 2013 Freightliner, 926,000 miles thus far. 2006 Cadillac CTS 3.6, '98 Chevy 2500 454, '13 Chevy 1500 5.3, '15 Chevy 2500 6.0, and '06 Jeep Liberty diesel. Fumoto on all of them.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4976678
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Thanks for all the feedback.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4979938
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Only issue I ran into having a valve is the few times on travel and need a shop to do my oil changes, they still spin the valve off even when I tell them not too. Then they crush the fiber gasket the valve comes with when they spin it back on.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4979954
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It always amazes me that when these valves come up for discussion all of the potential problems are shown and the worst case scenarios, No one ever states how many problems there have been with leaky gaskets on the plugs, or the plugs not tightened properly, or stripped threads and pans lost from hitting objects on the road.. these Fumoto valves are build really really solid, I drove over a cement barrier once and shaved the nipple off of one and it still worked for years without a leak. After 20 years of usage I swear by them. As to oil left in after a drain,, how many shops pull the plug wait until the flow slows to a trickle and put the plug back in and refill, how much is still in the pan then???? It may take a while to feel comfortable with the valve on there but they really are reliable and very nice for changing the oil.,.

Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: Spector] #4980023
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Originally Posted by Spector
It always amazes me that when these valves come up for discussion all of the potential problems are shown and the worst case scenarios, No one ever states how many problems there have been with leaky gaskets on the plugs, or the plugs not tightened properly, or stripped threads and pans lost from hitting objects on the road.. these Fumoto valves are build really really solid, I drove over a cement barrier once and shaved the nipple off of one and it still worked for years without a leak. After 20 years of usage I swear by them. As to oil left in after a drain,, how many shops pull the plug wait until the flow slows to a trickle and put the plug back in and refill, how much is still in the pan then???? It may take a while to feel comfortable with the valve on there but they really are reliable and very nice for changing the oil.,.

We have 9 in the family and not one has had an issue except the 1 shortly after install. I know because I change their oil among other maintenance/repairs. Mine that leaked (dripped slightly occasionally) and they warrantied it for me and it has been fine since. Still using it currently and it has been opened and closed tons of times and see lots of road time. I completely agree.

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4980205
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I'm thinking of perhaps getting one for my minivan. Is around $25 a good price for one, or do they go on sale from time to time? I'm not in a hurry as I just did an OC on it.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: KrisZ] #4980206
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Originally Posted by KrisZ
I'm thinking of perhaps getting one for my minivan. Is around $25 a good price for one, or do they go on sale from time to time? I'm not in a hurry as I just did an OC on it.

$25 is good, it's all brass with stainless ball so you are paying for the metal and the quality manufacturing so it stands the test of time IMO. They do have sales from time to time but it's not a regular occurrence. (I get their e-mails)

I have this from the Journey but it fits the Caravan too... https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/f106n.html

(Any Chrysler thread wise)

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4980222
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Thanks Stevie, I was thinking of getting the one with a short nipple I think it was F106S.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: KrisZ] #4980224
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Originally Posted by KrisZ
I'm thinking of perhaps getting one for my minivan. Is around $25 a good price for one, or do they go on sale from time to time? I'm not in a hurry as I just did an OC on it.


$25 is about right. I think they used to give a discount if you bought two or more at one time. I can't recall if they had a black Friday sale for 10% off.

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: JC1] #4980230
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Originally Posted by JC1
Originally Posted by KrisZ
I'm thinking of perhaps getting one for my minivan. Is around $25 a good price for one, or do they go on sale from time to time? I'm not in a hurry as I just did an OC on it.


$25 is about right. I think they used to give a discount if you bought two or more at one time. I can't recall if they had a black Friday sale for 10% off.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4980518
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Well, am I lucky or what? I just came across this deal on Amazon. F106S with the clip for $18.21, so I ordered one.
Fumoto F106S

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4980520
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The short nipple is ok but I find the hose can slip off if you re-use the hose for draining every time because there isn't enough area that the hose goes over for it to want to stay securely. Especially if the oil is hot. I put a short nipple on my MIL's CRV because of confined room in her case. Not a big deal but if you want to use with the hose and having it fall off occasionally isn't a big deal then go for it.

I also like the longer nipple because I buy Silicone push on plugs on E-Bay to go on the end to keep them road gunk free for oil sampling.

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: StevieC] #4980525
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It should not be a problem for me as I don't draw samples and most likely will not use a hose for draining, unless it happens to be windy outside. I figured for $18 I can give it a shot.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: KrisZ] #4980543
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Originally Posted by KrisZ
It should not be a problem for me as I don't draw samples and most likely will not use a hose for draining, unless it happens to be windy outside. I figured for $18 I can give it a shot.

For sure, can't beat that price. The last one I ordered for someone who couldn't wait for the sale or wait until I could get it from my brother if I shipped it there, cost us $50 CDN with import charges and exchange. wink

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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: redbone3] #4981930
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Originally Posted by redbone3
I prefer using an oil extractor. One extractor is good for as many vehicles as you service, you don't have to crawl under the vehicle, you don't have to worry about it leaking, you don't have to worry about stripping the threads on the oil plug.


I’d also like to use an extractor but that’s just 1 extra tool I have to clean and carry around lol.

I just got a fumoto installed on my subaru. Not sure what’s the deal but there’s a slow leak from the threads. Not enough to drip but enough to coat the valve. Dealer installed(factory 14mm kept getting stripped), not sure if it’s overtightned or they used the wrong washer.


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Re: Oil drain valves like Fumoto and EZ [Re: wemay] #4982089
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I've not had one leaking from the threads so it has to be one of the following:

1) Not tight enough. (The blue washer allows you to snug it down good in the position you want it oriented in)
2) Blue washer that comes with the valve wasn't installed, or another washer was used instead (which won't work in most cases, eg: Nylon or aluminum/copper crush washers)
3) Threads on the valve aren't cut properly or the threads on the oil pan have a problem preventing it from mating together properly and allowing it to seal when tightened.

If the threads are a problem you can take it out and put some teflon tape on a couple of threads of the valve so that when it's screwed into your oil pan the teflon is only on the threads and not in the oil pan itself where the threads are exposed inside the pan to oil. Just fold the teflon tape in half and apply to the 2 or 3 threads further back and not at the beginning of the threads. Put the blue washer on first though.

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