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Re: Magnatec 5W-30, 6800 miles, 3.5 Ecoboost [Re: Onug] #4976600
01/11/19 11:24 PM
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good, but all that titanium didn't really do much.

16 Civic Coupe Touring 38k
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Firehawk Indy 500

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Re: Magnatec 5W-30, 6800 miles, 3.5 Ecoboost [Re: dnewton3] #4977864
01/13/19 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dnewton3
My data set has over 200 samples for the 3.5L EB engine.
They average around 3.9ppm/1k miles for the Fe.
They average around 5.0ppm/1k miles for the Cu. (where the Cu comes from I cannot say; don't know the engine well enough. perhaps a Cu based oil cooler like some GM engines?)
They average around 1.0ppm/1k miles for Al.
The other metals are generally low enough to not even consider an issue; only if you got a huge spike would it be a cause for concern.

This UOA is pretty typical for a 3.5EB; nothing but normal. Now, the "new" EB with the duel injection systems, I don't have enough data to really get details yet. Given the total miles on this unit I can presume it's one of the 1st gen motors, so my data is valid for comparison and contrast.

How many different vehicles is this data set from?

Do you have averages from Fuel dilution, with labs that use gas chromotography? Any 2018 3.5 EcoBoosts? I have sent 4 samples, & last 3 have all been in 3.4-4.0% fuel dilution at a 2550-3080 mile OCI.

I have attached my reports if you are interested. my iron counts have still been dropping from the initial oil change. My PPM data is similar to what your data ranges are.

my first / initial drain was done at 2425 miles (Fluidlife) and the wear materials & fuel dilution were excessive. It was good to see them drop, & still falling. Fuel dilution seems to have leveled out.

Attached PDF document
TRIBRPT4.pdf (14 downloads)
Attached PDF document
fluidlife.pdf (13 downloads)
Last edited by cdlamb; 01/13/19 11:36 AM. Reason: spelling/ additional comments added
Re: Magnatec 5W-30, 6800 miles, 3.5 Ecoboost [Re: Onug] #4978305
01/13/19 08:41 PM
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I wouldn’t use (or stress about) any particle count until at minimum 10,000 miles on a Ford motor. They seem to take this long to break in.

2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: Magnatec 5W-30, 6800 miles, 3.5 Ecoboost [Re: Onug] #4984943
01/19/19 10:28 PM
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I was considering the 5W30 for my DI engine. But this stuff is really thin... borders a 20W.

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